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  • From: SALTMINES@aol.com
  • To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Cc: TheStarNav@aol.com
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Solar and Wind are not renewable
  • Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:07:44 EST

In a message dated 2/9/2009 5:39:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tradingpost@lobo.net writes:

Just one snag: the raw materials for manufacturing PVC, wind etc. are not
renewable. Some components of batteries for example are vulnerable to
scarcity and unaffordable prices. Aluminum uses high energy to process
bauxite. Bottom line: all manufacturing uses fossil fuels to run and to
make the equipment for manufacture. These parts of the process are easy to
overlook. However, there are renewable organic substitutes for fossil fuels
in lubricants, plastics and manufacturing processes. Hemp oil may be in our
future.

I read that the biggest obstacle to alternative energy is the sheer cost of
conversion. Obama wants to double alternative energy but that's not even a
drop in the bucket. We're going to do a lot less manufacturing and a lot
more low tech or appropriate technology. Never mind bankruptcy or loss of
retirement; many will starve. And that's going to force us a lot closer to
the land itself.

paul tradingpost@lobo.net
Hey, so true! . . .it would be nice if there really were just ONE snag!  But to illustrate my point: you mention "aluminum uses high energy to process bauxite" and that is absolutely true too..  But if the electricity for the process was from wind generators it would be self-renewing with each puff of wind.
 
Stephen


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