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Re: [Livingontheland] grain crop getting consumed by cars
- From: "TradingPostPaul" <tradingpost@riseup.net>
- To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] grain crop getting consumed by cars
- Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:07:22 -0700
My crystal ball isn't quite that accurate. But as I keep repeating,
millions of people right here in this country are already living in third
world conditions. Access to affordable food is their #1 problem and the
problem is structural, not individual. When you can't change the structure,
get out of it and find ways to provide for yourself.
paul tradingpost@lobo.net
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On 1/17/2008 at 8:52 PM Daniel Conine wrote:
>The price of grain tied to the price of oil works both ways. If farmers
>plant 30% more grain in anticipation of high oil prices and high demand
>for grain to drive cars, then the reverse can happen if the economy
>crashes and people stop driving cars. The price of grain would crash, too.
>The transportation/oil/grain/speculation circle is teetering along with
>the stock market right now: based upon the perception of Perpetual
>Growth. The stock market just went down 300 points because the Fed says
>there is a problem and they will need to lower interest rates. Too late.
>Now we have to start looking at how to get people fed who have no money,
>by a system that is going to be bankrupt (because people aren't working
>because they aren't buying houses because they can't borrow money
>because the price of houses and construction are inflated and there are
>more houses than potatoes), and without half of the oil it used to have
>(because China will use our money to buy what's left of the oil and use
>lots of cheap soldiers and cheap guns to hold on to it).
>
>We will have to rebuild an economy from the land, without oil. I don't
>know why I'm still sitting in front of the computer. I've got a lot of
>work to do now.
>(Unless, of course, Dick C lets G.W. reveal the energy secrets they have
>been hiding for 60 years.)
>
>Dan C.
>Belgium, WI
>
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Re: [Livingontheland] grain crop getting consumed by cars,
Daniel Conine, 01/17/2008
- Re: [Livingontheland] grain crop getting consumed by cars, TradingPostPaul, 01/18/2008
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