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  • From: "TradingPostPaul" <tradingpost@riseup.net>
  • To: activism98201@verizon.net, livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Relearning how to live as voluntary peasants
  • Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:17:47 -0700


I happen to agree. That piece was full of unstated assumptions that are
simply hogwash.

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

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On 2/15/2007 at 6:25 PM Mark Nagel wrote:

>It was semi-reasonable until it hit this paragraph:
>
>"Can we constrain extremism and direct the economy to activities that are
>beneficial to society? Regardless of the objections of laissez-faire
>free-trade economists, the U.S. must seek low unemployment, a sufficient
>growth rate, stable prices, a healthy balance of payments, the
preservation
>of the industrial base, the attainment of geopolitical goals, and the
>preservation of the middle class. Without a strong middle class, a country
>is polarized, and democracy cannot survive in a polarized society. If
>nothing is done, the U.S. may turn sharply left and go the way of
>Venezuela.
>The current shift to the left in Latin America may have come from
>globalization."
>
>Specifically problematic is this point:
>
>"the U.S. must seek low unemployment, a sufficient
>growth rate, stable prices"
>
>There's that "growth" word again! And just how long does the author
>propose we grow? Growth is the strategy of yeast and the cancer cell,
>it's a fundamental reality of all living things; we must stop believing
>that we're somehow exempt from these natural laws. I encourage folks to
>learn more about growth by catching one of Dr. Albert Barlett's lectures
>(google for them).
>
>And stable prices? Again, for how long could this happen? How long,
>would you think, that we could hold energy prices stable? What about land
>prices? All of this amidst increasing population sizes...
>
>To tie this to this group, I'd say that we've got to prepare for a
>reduction in population and be ready to be as self sufficient as possible.
>
>
>-Mark Nagel
>Everett, WA
>
>
>=====================
>From: Kathy Moore <anichinimoore@hotmail.com>
>Date: 2007/02/15 Thu PM 12:59:58 CST
>To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
>Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Relearning how to live as voluntary
peasants
>
>Thought this article might shed more light on some of the issues being
>discussed. Think there is even more reason to become self sufficient.
>Kathy
>
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