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  • From: Mark Nagel <activism98201@verizon.net>
  • To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] We have a lot farther to fall than Cuba
  • Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:38:21 -0600 (CST)

"It means large amounts of money must be spent to do it."

And though money is a but an abstract, it nonetheless does have some sense of
connection to work. And work means energy; therefore, money equals energy.
What I'm wanting to point out here is that it's an energy problem; and, as
noted, innovation doesn't create energy (it can only improve efficiency; the
problem here is that, as noted by Jevons Paradox, efficiency always means
faster depletion of a given resource).

We must lay down the burden of expecting technology to save us. It won't.
The answers are in the land, not in our minds...


-Mark Nagel
Everett, WA


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From: Gloria Baikauskas <gcb49@flash.net>
Date: 2006/11/29 Wed AM 04:53:06 CST
To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] We have a lot farther to fall than Cuba

The US dollar is at an all time low today. Maybe we should all be scared to
death about that. Orders for manufactured goods are way down, and housing
starts aren't exactly multiplying. It is the same in Japan. Time will
tell if this will be a global thing....or merely a repositioning of wealth
and power which does occur from time to time. Greed is a huge part of the
problem I think. We in the US have sold off property and goods left and
right to the point that foreign companies and individuals own more of the US
than most Americans realize. Even Monsanto is not American owned. Tis
all a mess. Somewhere there is a research project being funded that
would ordinarily not be because some clear thinking individual realizes that
now is the time for that alternate energy. Remember our streets used to be
lit by gas lamps....not electric ones with halogen bulbs and such. Necessity
is the mother of all invention. In much of the world the high speed
maglev <magnetic levitation> trains are used to move people from place to
place using far less fossil fuel than an ordinary one in the US. For the
life of me I cannot figure out why they have not put down new rails and tried
this new technology here when it has worked so well in Asia and in Europe. I
know why. It means large amounts of money must be spent to do it. Those
folks with all the money who are in our Congress, or cousin to those who are,
could make it happen...but they don't. In the end huge amounts of money
would be saved, though.

Sometimes it is not ignorance, but contempt that is the problem.




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