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  • From: "TradingPostPaul" <tradingpost@riseup.net>
  • To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Master Gardeners
  • Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:46:50 -0700


I'm glad to hear of any breakthroughs, Dan, it's encouraging. That
Beginning Market Gardener class is sorely needed in every corner of the
country, and it ought to be free. As you know market growing is a whole
different animal from backyard gardens. Let me mention a book I've reread a
couple times or more, Growing For Market (Rodale Press, naturally ... ) ed.
Roger Yepsen and editors of Organic Gardening, 1978. I wish we had a more
recent update on it though with all the progress being made.
http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?ac=sl&st=sl&qi=iOkSbgOP7Dlm5VzMo6jy5qJgVFY
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paul tradingpost@lobo.net

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On 10/30/2006 at 11:34 AM Dan Conine wrote:

>Thanks for posting this:
>> From: "TradingPostPaul" <tradingpost@riseup.net>
>> Subject: [Livingontheland] pesticide pusher? Grab your hip boots,
>> it's getting deep
>> To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
>> Message-ID: <200610291202460841.03450AD6@mail.lobo.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>
>> Thank you. I don't pass judgment on other states' extension programs,
not
>> knowing all the details. But in this state I'm not going to pay to be a
>> volunteer pesticide pusher. We have hundreds (thousands?) of unknown
>> poisons in our bodies already and babies are born with them through the
>> mother. In addition, I don't like the threatening tone of that MG
>> application. Nor am I passing judgment on every person in the program.
>But
>> really, they ought to have sense enough to realize that short course
does
>> not make them experts or make them qualified to give anybody advice.
Some
>> no doubt have good intentions. But as my grandpa used to say, the road
to
>> Hell is paved with good intentions. Many of us on this list have studied
>> and experienced a hundred times as much as so-called Master Gardeners,
>and
>> we don't claim to be "Master" anythings.
>>
>> paul tradingpost@lobo.net
>I wasn't sure that your original post was sarcastic at first, and was
>holding my tongue. -;-)
>
>Our local Extension has something that sounds similar. It is mostly a
>bunch of elderly folks who have time on their hands and are doing some
>very good things for the looks of the local community. They don't
>discourage pesticides as much as I would like, but they tend toward
>neutral right now, and the Wisconsin university system is jumping on the
>organics bandwagon with the Yuppie money and the networking of the
>universtity towns in Organic coop stores, CSA groups and the Corporate
>interest in organic dairy money. I got my interest piqued by their
>Beginning Market Gardener class (which did focus on organics and
>holistic pest management methods). The BMG class is attended by people
>looking for change in local foods and how to get started themselves,
>rather than the Master Gardener certification, which is more of an ego
>boost for the attendees (not necessarily in a bad way, just differently
>motivated).
>
>Dan
>
>
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