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  • From: "art corbit" <art_c@cox.net>
  • To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing" <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Maybe (was Re: commune way of living)
  • Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 21:40:42 -0500

Hi Harvey,

If the crash comes over a period of say a couple or three years most people
will be ok. The American people have always been known to come together in
bad times and do what ever they had to do to fix their problems. If given
the opportunity I don't see any reason this couldn't be the same way. If it
should happen quickly though that will be an entirely different story.

Art in Arkansas


----- Original Message -----
From: "Harvey Ussery" <huboxwood@earthlink.net>
To: <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:59 AM
Subject: [Livingontheland] Maybe (was Re: commune way of living)


> > Take another look around you. Getting away from the "community" is the
> > wisest thing a family could do. Those people we now call our friends and
> > neighbors could very easily turn on us and become our worst ennemies.
What
> > would happen if you were the only one in a community that had food and
> > water? You and your family would probably be killed and your food and
water
> > carried off by your friends and neighbors.
> >
> > I wouldn't want to be forced to kill to keep what I had but that is
exactly
> > what it would come down to if people knew you still had food. (Art in
Arkansas)
>
> A dramatic look at the future, to be sure, to which I reply: Maybe.
> Certainly the population is vastly greater than in the Depression, and a
> vastly greater percentage doesn't have a clue about how to make food
> come into being. Certainly in a society armed to the teeth such as ours
> the sort of dog-eat-dog, murdering-neighbors scenario Art sketches are a
> distinct possibility.
>
> But it may be that the collapse will manifest not so much as "deep
> drama," but simply that almost all of us will find that we are very,
> very poor. And maybe a desperate need to survive will quickly spark a
> return to traditional food-producing skills.
>
> In any case, I have already accepted: If the collapse comes down to a
> shoot-out, I lose. No problem. Okay. I have no intention of even
> competing in that arena. But if it doesn't, then the person who will
> emerge as *most valuable* to the community is the person who, in
> contrast to almost everybody else in the society, has already climbed
> the learning curves involved in growing most of his own food. And who,
> in addition to being in a better position to see to his own family's
> needs, will have an opportunity to be of service to his neighbors who
> are starting from scratch.
>
> ~Harvey
>
> PS Admittedly, Art, I didn't address the main point you emphasized: the
> plight in the cities (and suburbs). All I can say is--that's gonna be a
> mess.
>
> --
> Harvey in northern Va
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