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Re: [Livingontheland] preparation / was commune way of living
- From: "art corbit" <art_c@cox.net>
- To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing" <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] preparation / was commune way of living
- Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:16:31 -0500
Hi Paul,
You are exactly correct. In the 30's a lot of people were still producing
most of what they consumed and most had enough extra to share it with
others. Just the difference in population in the 30's and now will make all
the difference. If our food supply is cut off for any length of time the
whole nation will go absolutely crazy.
For one thing the people in the 30's has a lot more security for they
depended more on their own efforts. Most of what they had they and they
alone controlled if they would have it or not. They didn't panic when
everything fell apart. They just tightened their belts and rode it out. That
would not be the case now. We don't have anything to ride it out with.
I have no idea what will actually happen but something will and you can bet
your sweet bippy on that. There are a number of things that could happen
that would bring the production of everything in this nation to a screeching
halt. Run-away-inflation is always a possibility. A wrong move by the wrong
people at the wrong could put everything into a tailspin like you wouldn't
believe. Raising the price on fuel is one of those wrong moves. Price
increases of everything caused by the increase in higher fuel prices has
just started and will continue. That one stupid act alone can very easily
start a domino effect that will bring a lot of things down right around our
ears.
I am hoping it will come on slow as you suggest but it may not.
Art in Arkansas
----- Original Message -----
From: "TradingPostPaul" <tradingpost@riseup.net>
To: <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:20 PM
Subject: [Livingontheland] preparation / was commune way of living
> My own take on it is recession, depression, worse depression and not
> getting better. I expect gradual worsening of cost of living and more
> desperation spreading through the middle class, rather than something that
> triggers catastrophic collapse. Assuming New Madrid, Yellowstone, and San
> Adreas keep quiet, and the politicians don't go completely bonkers. But
> let's remember in the '30s Depression we didn't have hungry hordes raiding
> homes and stores. They went on the road and rode the rails looking for
> work. They showed up at back doors along the tracks asking for a sandwich,
> and got it. But then again, half the population lived on farms and had
> their own food. My aunts and uncles in Kansas had no money as kids but
> never missed a meal. Grandpa homesteaded near Two Buttes, CO in the '20s,
> sold it and eventually moved near Hutchinson. They gardened, canned, and
> made good use of the root cellar. But people in town suffered.
>
> paul, tradingpost@riseup.net
> ---------------
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
>
> On 7/19/2006 at 11:06 AM art corbit wrote:
>
> >Hi Diane,
> >
> >That is my point exactly. The kind of people you describe will be our
> worst
> >enemies. They have been deceived into believing the good times will last
> >forever and they feel no need to do any more work than they must. Even a
> >lot
> >of people that know hard times are coming are putting off doing anything
> to
> >prepare for it. They think they will have time but they won't. If you
> don't
> >have a full year of food stashed back right now and a means of replacing
> it
> >that you alone control you are in a very dangerous position. Pure water
> for
> >drinking and cooking is also something we should be working on. Distilled
> >water could very easily be the only answer. Should it come to a point
> where
> >millions starve to death their dead bodies would contaminate this earth
to
> >a
> >point the surface water would be deadly. Even most drilled water wells
> >would
> >become contaminated beyond safe use.
> >
> >Ask yourself this question. How many people do you know right now that
> >could
> >survive without any outside help? I'm talking at this moment, not down
the
> >road a couple of years. Right now we should be working on our soil
> building
> >it up and putting together the things we need to tend it. If you don't
> have
> >land to live on that belongs to you then buy you an acre or so out of
town
> >and get to work on it. It doesn't matter how far the land is from town
> >because if you ever need it to survive you won't be going into town
> anyway.
> >Now is the time to act, not 6 months from now.
> >
> >Art in Arkansas
> >
> >
>
>
>
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[Livingontheland] preparation / was commune way of living,
TradingPostPaul, 07/19/2006
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Re: [Livingontheland] preparation / was commune way of living,
art corbit, 07/19/2006
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Re: [Livingontheland] preparation / was commune way of living,
Tradingpost, 07/19/2006
- Re: [Livingontheland] preparation / was commune way of living, art corbit, 07/19/2006
- Re: [Livingontheland] preparation / was commune way of living, D Knoll, 07/20/2006
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Re: [Livingontheland] preparation / was commune way of living,
Tradingpost, 07/19/2006
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