Ontario Fruit Explorers

[Thomas Olenio <tolenio@sentex.net>]

Hi,

The group is just very very slow, and it is my fault, as I have not
promoted it.  The reason I started the group was to have a home for
labrusca hobbyists.

I use a very basic process and I enjoy the wine from labrusca grapes.  I am
still a little confused by the "foxy" designation.  The way the term is
bandied about, you would expect foxy to be a synonym for unpalatable, but
in my experience it is not.

In regards to the Concord pruning...  It depends if the vine grows
vigorously, moderately vigorous, or weak.

The example shown in my book indicates this; (6 cane Kniffen trained)

Very Vigorous Concord
pruned off 4.5 pounds of cane
60 buds remaining

Moderately Vigorous Concord
pruned off 2.25 pounds of cane
40 buds remaining

Weak Concord
pruned off 1 pound  of cane
30 buds remaining

Hope that helps your Concord situation.

I am in SW Ontario but grew up in North Andover, MA (Merrimack Valley).
The growing conditions are the same.  Just as the Atlantic mitigated
winter temp-s, the great lakes do the same here.  The difference between
winter here, and winter there is negligible.

Later,
Tom

 -- Southwest Ontario
Canada Hardiness Zone 5b
(similar to US zone 5)

On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, dabrowski wrote:

> Hi Tom, thanks for the reply.
> I only have 4 mature Concord's, and I train them VSP.
> Maybe I should train them with much longer canes?
>
> The Diamond's are still young, so they really need another year before they
> are ready to fully produce anyway.
>
> By the way, I've NEVER received a single email from this LabruscaGrape email
> service.
> Is it defunct now?
>
> I live in Candia NH, where are you?
>
> Also, can you explain how they removed the "foxiness" out of there Diamond
> wine at Goose Watch winery in NY?
> There is obviously a method.
>
> Thanks,
>    Bob
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Thomas Olenio <tolenio@sentex.net>
> To: Exploring Labrusca grapes and making better wine with them.
> <labruscagrape@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [LabruscaGrape] concord
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > It could be a number of factors;
> >
> >   Less than average productivity in the vine itself
> >   Pruning - training style/amount pruned
> >   Soil
> >   Moisture
> >   Sun
> >
> > Is this true of all your Concord vines or just specific vines?
> >
> > This past winter season was very hard on vines in our area.
> >
> > Can you tell us more about your vines?
> >
> > Later,
> > Tom
> > --
> > Southwest Ontario
> > Canada Hardiness Zone 5b
> > (similar to US zone 5)
> >
> > On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, dabrowski wrote:
> >
> > >     can anybody give advice on Concord grapes?  (and Diamond as well)
> > >
> > > doesn't seem that I am getting the production that I should be out of
> them
> > >
> > >
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