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[Judy Hallman <hallman AT email.unc.edu>]

Woozle,

Thanks for your links -- I checked them out.

Yes, the price is high. John Kenyon is a professional trainer, trying to 
make a living. And he lives in California. I went to a training session 
he had at Triangle United Way on online fundraising and it was 
excellent. He covered a lot of stuff, fast, with good powerpoint, and 
good handouts (all the powerpoint slides were in the handout). The room 
at Duke is no additional charge to us.

Like you, I've found the documentation for Drupal/CivicSpace/CiviCRM 
lacking. I learned a little Drupal from a book, but haven't found a good 
overview for CiviCRM. I've spent a lot of time Googling.

John is not a techie. His audience is nonprofit staff and people who 
work to help nonprofit organizations.

I don't know any more details about what he'll cover than are at 
http://www.rtpnet.org/rtpnet/workshop06nov.shtml
The Web page also contains a paragraph about John's experience.

Note these recommendations:

- "we've worked with John Kenyon in the past and would recommend him
highly for your training needs :)" - Donald A. Lobo, one of the key
developers of CiviCRM

- "I'll also put in a good word for John. He delivers a great CiviCRM
training." - David Geilhufe, Managing Partner, CivicSpace

Judy
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Woozle wrote:

> On Monday 16 October 2006 12:00, internetworkers-request AT lists.ibiblio.org 
> wrote:
>
> > We have to make a go/no-go decision by October 19 (Thursday). Unless
> > more people register by Thursday, we'll have to cancel.
>
>
> I was interested at first glance... but, to be blunt, the price tag was a bit 
> off-putting. This is free, open-source software we're talking about; the 
> people who spent many hundreds or thousands of hours writing that software 
> (and its documentation, and the plug-ins and add-ons...) have freely shared 
> the results of their labors with the rest of us... and yet someone still 
> finds a way to extract income from what should be a free flow of information 
> surrounding those applications. Although perfectly legal, this somehow seems 
> very much against the spirit in which the software was created.
>
> So, just what do potential participants get for their $80-$150? The software 
> itself is free, as is the documentation and access to countless support 
> forums and real-time chat rooms. From what I can see, participants have to 
> bring their own laptops, although internet is provided. We could provide the 
> same in our living room (as probably could many people on this list), for 
> maybe 5-10  people, at no cost, if they didn't mind improvising on the 
> seating arrangements a little bit. How much does the presenter cost? What 
> sort of exercises are being presented? Where is the outline of the day's 
> presentations, so potential presentees can decide if the information will be 
> useful to them?
>
> Here are my contributions to content management know-how:
>
> http://htyp.org/content_management_system
> http://htyp.org/Drupal
> http://htyp.org/MediaWiki
>
> If anyone needs CMS help or advice, feel free to email or find me on IRC. I'm 
> most experienced with MediaWiki, but have installed Drupal and WordPress.
>
> Woozle
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