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  • From: Marcia <msmartin AT ccbeunet.br>
  • To: burnett AT pobox.com, "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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  • Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Stop Computer Voting In North Carolina
  • Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 12:59:53 -0300

ummmmm... maybe one of the benefits could be having a result in a few hours,
instead of days, weeks....?


Quoting Steve Burnett <burnett AT pobox.com>:

> > How accurate would a paper trail be anyway? We all know that one
> > information could be sent to the printer, and another to the actual
> > system/database.
> >
> > How accurate was last presidential election in Florida? I guess we'll
> > never really know. If people want to fix the elections, there’s really
> > no way of stopping it... In my humble opinion.
>
> So the benefit in switching systems is....?
>
> The transition cost is not zero (at least highly unlikely to be zero), so
> it'd be nice to see a positive benefit somewhere.
>
> Steve B
>
> > Quoting "H. Wade Minter" <minter AT lunenburg.org>:
> >
> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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> >>
> >> On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Thomas Beckett wrote:
> >>
> >> > Rachel Cox wrote:
> >> > > Yeah, I'm not very excited about electronic voting at this point
> >> myself. I'm eager for the time when I can be, but right now there are
> just too many questions for me to be comfortable with it.
> >> >
> >> > Well in North Carolina at least, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
> >> The paper ballot and optical reader system we now use (in Orange,
> Durham and Wake at least) works great, and there's a physical ballot
> and audit trail. The ballot itself is simple and easy to
> >> understand. I have even witnessed a local election recount on
> >> behalf of the Democratic Party and I think the system works well. I
> would be extremely suspicious of any effort to replace this system with
> anything else.
> >>
> >> The big problem as I see it is that the big voting companies like
> Diebold are absolutely opposed to, and fighting tooth-and-nail to stop,
> any sort of audit trail for their computers. They want zero paper
> trail for their voting.
> >>
> >> Why on earth would anyone who wants fair elections be so opposed to
> having a paper audit trail? That's what gets my suspicions up about
> e-voting. They want to take an unproven system and remove any sort of
> non-electronic accountability.
> >>
> >> Sketchy at best.
> >>
> >> - --Wade
>
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