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On Feb 28, 2004, at 9:05 AM, Lee Haslup wrote:

> zman wrote:
>
> > Yeah it's an entirely american thing, and a waste of good beer, next  
> > thing you know you'll be putting fruit in beer.
> The term "Black and Tan" was originally used in and around county  
> Limerick in Ireland to refer to a pack of hounds.  It was subsequently  
> applied to British Army Irregulars sent to put down the Easter  
> uprising in 1920.  In that context it referred to the colors of their  
> uniforms and, because of the "pack of dogs" tie-in it was mildly  
> insulting.

Okay, I work with a woman from Ireland so I went to the source. Sorry  
it took me so long to weigh in but I was in Japan.

Lee is right about the history. Her great-aunt's father was killed by  
the Black and Tans and she wouldn't tolerate the word, black and tan  
colored dogs, the drink, etc.

It is not a popular drink in Catholic Ireland (usually ordered by  
tourists), but here is the way it is made:

Originally: Bass ale topped with Guinness (Bass being an English ale).  
The Guinness is poured over the back of a spoon to keep it from mixing  
with the ale at the bottom.

Currently: The ale is Smithwicks (the w is silent).

Also, there is the "half and half" which is Guinness and a lager,  
usually Harp.

There is also a drink called a Snakebite, which in the US is Guinness  
and hard cider served like a black and tan. In Ireland it's cider mixed  
with lager, which is apparently a pretty potent drink favored by the  
young (it's sometimes called "lunatic soup").

-T
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