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["Shea Tisdale" <shea AT sheatisdale.com>]

Oops... I made a mistype...it's JnGl, not JiGL...
So JnGL

> -----Original Message-----
> From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:internetworkers-
> bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Shea Tisdale
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 11:00 AM
> To: 'Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/'
> Subject: RE: [internetworkers] CryptOS
> 
> The JiGL Operating Environment (Jingle for short) offers all of this
and
> more.  I believe it uses recursive random encryption and compression.
> Thomas Beckett or David Minton can verify this feature, I think
they've
> used it a bit in the early trials.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:internetworkers-
> > bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Tanner Lovelace
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 1:01 AM
> > To: Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
> > Subject: Re: [internetworkers] CryptOS
> >
> > Alan MacHett wrote:
> >
> > > The closest I've come to finding what I have in mind is the
project
> of
> > > this fellow in Dublin.  He calls it CryptOS, but what he means is
> > > CryptNetwork:
> > > http://www.cs.tcd.ie/Christian.Jensen/research/CryptOS/
> > > And there are also various (smart) card cryptographic operating
> systems
> > > and various cryptographic USB dongles.
> > >
> > > There's also this excellent article about making a secure OS:
> > > http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20031125S0045
> > >
> > > ...but I'm not just thinking about a secure operating system or
even
> an
> > > operating system that integrates strong cryptography --
> > > http://www.openbsd.org/crypto.html -- I want a cryptographic
> operating
> > > system.  Ideally, even the hardware for the system would be built
> with
> > > crypto in mind.  Then the OS itself would run encrypted.  Only
> > authorized
> > > users could have access to the desktop.  And if you forget your
> password
> > > ... oh well; none of this administrator level reverse-engineering
> hashes
> > > or whatnot to regain access -- you lose, start over.  Undeniably
> secure:
> > > no way to hack it, crack it, reverse-engineer it, electron
> spectroscope
> > > it, or anything else that anyone might dream up...
> > >
> > > It's extreme and not economical, I know, much like my dream of
> seeing
> > Mech
> > > Warriors duke it out on battlefields.  Still, I suspect a CryptOS
> would
> > > have more use and popularity...
> >
> > Well, I don't think you'll have any luck right now with the
hardware,
> > but as far as the software goes, have you looked into SELinux?  It
> > was created by the NSA to be a secure version of linux.  Linux
> > Journal just ran an article recently about someone who put an
> > installation of it on the net, gave out the root password, and
> > people still failed to be able to crack it.  It secures everything,
> > even from root.  Google should know where it is. :-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Tanner
> >
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