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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

This is from Article. I. of the U.S. Constitution. Notice the words "gold" 
and "silver".  You are correct, of course.  But, this is what is used, in 
this countryy, for such arguments.  The reporter probably didn't mention 
because journalists, like politicians, don't tend to actually read the 
Constitution .....bobford

"Section. 10. No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or 
Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills 
of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of 
Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the 
Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility. "


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--- On Thu, 10/30/08, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] PA , Monkey-wrenching
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 5:47 AM
> Isn't their argument completely baseless? Doesn't
> the government decide 
> what's recognized as legal tender, whether it has any
> 'real' value or 
> not? I never understood what real value gold has. You
> can't eat it or 
> plant it and grow something, and it has limited uses as a
> metal or 
> mineral...many people around the world have decided it has
> value, so it 
> does. I find it strange that people think one useless thing
> has value 
> but other useless things don't.
> 
> Lynn Wigglesworth
> 
> bob ford wrote:
> >  October 30, 2008
> >   
> > 3 men with gold confuse sheriff's sale
> > 
> > They say bidders' paper cash is
> 'illegitimate.'
> > 
> > By Matt Assad | Of The Morning Call 
> > October 29, 2008 
> > 
> > With the economy in decline, the list of foreclosed
> properties up for Northampton County sheriff's sale this
> month was long, but Deputy Sheriff Dave Ruberry figured his
> last stint supervising the sale would be uneventful.
> > 
> > Then Michael Proetto of Whitehall Township, clutching
> a bulging sandwich bag, walked up.
> > 
> > ''I'd like to register my bid of $30 [over
> costs] in gold and silver U.S. currency,'' said
> Proetto, bidding on a two-bedroom condominium in Williams
> Township.
> > 
> > ''Excuse me?'' Ruberry said.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ''I have lawful gold and silver U.S.
> currency,'' Proetto said, plunking the bag of gold
> and silver on the table.
> > 
> > At the Oct. 10 sale, Proetto and colleagues Michael
> Reis of Bethlehem and Victor Balletta of Allentown would
> make unsuccessful bids ranging from $12,000 to more than
> $75,000 on nine properties. At the time, they declined to
> reveal their motives, and their bids left county officials
> scratching their heads.
> > 
> > Ruberry thinks the three men are anarchists, while a
> county lawyer thinks they could be after a quick buck.
> > 
> > Whatever their motives, the three returned last week
> to file 27 notices challenging the foreclosure sales, in
> which they lost bids to people using ''illegitimate
> paper'' money.
> > 
> > ''[The other bidders] made an unlawful money
> bid in credit in opposition to my lawful money
> bid,'' Proetto wrote in nine challenges he made.
> ''I was the only lawful bidder and therefore the
> only bidder.''
> > 
> > In other words, Proetto said earlier this week, his
> gold was the only valid money at the sale and the rest of
> the bids used ''worthless paper backed by nothing
> more than black ink.''
> > 
> > Ruberry, who has run the sale for five years and is
> handing the duty over to another deputy, said,
> ''Obviously the United States of America takes a
> different view and so do we....This isn't the barter
> system, where you can bring your jewelry here to be melted
> down to buy a house.''
> > 
> > Ruberry speculated the three men might be part of an
> anarchist movement engaging in a ''paper
> terrorism'' campaign to clog the courts.
> > 
> > Assistant county solicitor Christopher Spadoni, who
> handles the sheriff's sales, said they may simply be
> opportunists.
> > 
> > Most of the properties the men made unsuccessful bids
> on were bought by the banks holding the mortgages. By
> challenging the sales, the men could hold up the bank's
> ability to sell the property for up to two years, Spadoni
> said.
> > 
> > ''A bank lawyer might just want to pay them to
> go away. Maybe they are smarter than we think,''
> Spadoni said. ''But if their argument is that their
> money is real, and everyone else's is fake, well, I find
> their argument baseless.''
> > 
> > Courts in Lehigh and Carbon counties report no similar
> appeals.
> > 
> > Ruberry believes the men may be fellow travelers of
> anti-government groups such as the Sovereign Citizen, Posse
> Comitatus and Liberty Dollar movements that believe paper
> money is not legal tender.
> > 
> > In some states, members of those groups have clogged
> court systems, flooding government offices with liens, civil
> suits and legal challenges to purchases made with what they
> say is illegal money. In Texas, a group calling themselves
> Republic of Texas conducted such a successful effort that
> the Texas Legislature passed a law in 1997 to prevent it,
> and similar efforts were reported in Wisconsin and Ohio in
> the 1990s, according to newspaper reports.
> > 
> > Proetto said while he and his colleagues may hold
> similar philosophies to those organized groups, they are not
> associated with any of them and are not on an
> anti-government campaign.
> > 
> > ''Don't read too much into this,''
> said Proetto, who would reveal little about himself other
> than that he is retired and once served in the Navy.
> ''We're just three guys trying to buy $4 million
> worth of property with gold and silver -- the only real
> money that was bid.''
> > 
> > Spadoni said if the men filed their appeals properly
> -- he questions whether that will happen -- the matter would
> have to be heard by a county judge.
> > 
> > In the end, Proetto, Reis and Balletta walked out of
> the sheriff's sale still carrying the gold and silver
> they came with.
> > 
> > And Ruberry walked out thankful that if they return at
> the next sale Nov. 7, they'll be someone else's
> problem.
> > 
> > ''It's not every day you get someone
> trying to buy property with 30 pieces of gold,''
> Ruberry said. ''Interesting, but I won't miss
> it.''
> > 
> > 
> >
> http://www.mcall.com/news/local/all-b1_3gold.6647031oct29,0,1837218.story
> > 
> > 
> > 
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