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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

James, I'm answering this on the list though it came directly (I believe by 
accident ) to me.  

No matter what the justices say about the constitution, I have a right of 
self-knowledge to travel anywhere with any kind of currency I please. My 
right of self knowledge shall not be infringed  ;.) .bobford

p.s. If 'I had a $100,000 cash, I wouldn't be in the car, I'd be in a motel 
room with three .......nevermind ....bobf

p.s. again .. though I am not a goldbug, myself, I do know of one deal that 
was made with gold before '74. 'involved a piece of land.  I have no clue how 
gold was valued on the underground market, though .....bobf




--- On Sun, 9/28/08, Clansgian AT wmconnect.com <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com> wrote:

> From: Clansgian AT wmconnect.com <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Gov't - GPS - No warrant
> To: bobford79 AT yahoo.com
> Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 12:55 PM
> > >They really are following us, just in case
> .....bobford
> > 
> > >GPS bug follows 'alleged' smuggler to
> Georgia
> 
> 
> The operant word here, Bob, is "us".  If they
> were following me, they would 
> be bored to dust very quickly.  So my question is,
> "What you mean "us", 
> kimosabee?"
> 
> You have a constitutional right to privacy as far as what
> goes on INSIDE the 
> car, but that is all.  Had the agents decided to track it
> using a helicopter 
> or lookouts along the way, there is nothing illegal about
> that.   Likewise 
> there is nothing illegal about the GPS, especially since it
> was a rental car, even 
> if the driver didn't know it was there.
> 
> Bob, you seem to be laboring under the misconception that
> you have a 
> constitutrional right to block people (esp. the government)
> from tracking where you 
> are going.  You don't.
> 
> That is, they didn't need a warrant to bug the car, it
> was legal.
> 
> The rule of thumb is this, the governemt can do anything in
> these matters 
> that it is legal for you to do.  You might be able to make
> a case, although I 
> doubt it, that I cannot put a GPS on your car and monitor
> where you are going.  
> But you certainly can't make the case that I can't
> put a device on a rental car 
> and track where it is going.  If I did that, and you rented
> the car, what are 
> you going to charge me with?  If I can do it, the
> government can do it.
> 
> One must resist the temptation to play armchair
> constitutionalist.  Recall 
> that until 1974 it was illegal for you to own gold
> personally except for jewelry 
> and industrial use.  If you were found with gold bar or
> gold coin, it could 
> be seized.  LIiewise now of days, regarless of how logical
> or fair it might 
> seem for you to be able to do so, you cannot go about with
> $100K in cash.  If you 
> do, you know up ahead of time that it is subject to
> confiscation.  So now of 
> days anyone but a moron just doesn't do it.
> 
> By the bye, all you gold-o-philes out there, do you know it
> is still illegal 
> to use gold as money?  When Ford repealed the laws on gold
> hoarding, he did 
> NOT repeal the Gold Clause Resolution of 1933 (part of what
> is now know as the 
> Gold Confiscation Act of 1933).  You may own and buy and
> sell gold as a 
> commodity, but you cannot enter into a contract where the
> paymet is specified as a 
> specific amount of gold.  That is  WTSHTF, if you find
> yourself starving and 
> agree with someone to buy a quarter ton of wheat for a half
> ounce of gold, you 
> would be breaking the law and if caught would lose both the
> gold and the wheat 
> and likely go to jail.  It would only be legal for you to
> sell the gold for 
> cash and use the cash to make purchases.   </HTML>