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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

The template for our society is set. 
In my world, children are often left to learn as they choose.  Watching the 
conclusion of their hormonal driven impulses does not make me comfortable, 
within society's template. 
If the desire is to change the template, then, okay, the soundness of  
argument for unschooling becomes obvious.  Until then I will remain a cynic.  
....  bford


--- On Sun, 6/15/08, Gene GeRue <genegerue AT ruralize.com> wrote:

> From: Gene GeRue <genegerue AT ruralize.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Unschooling
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Sunday, June 15, 2008, 10:09 AM
> On Jun 15, 2008, at 10:33 AM, Clansgian AT wmconnect.com wrote:
> 
> > On the contrary, the evidence is crushingly,
> overwhelmingly that  
> > left alone,
> > children learn what they need to know.  Confinement,
> regimentation,  
> > testing,
> > and all such are utterly unnecessary unless you have
> some other goal  
> > in mind
> > besides the academics.
> 
> Now the stage has been expanded. This discussion has
> heretofore hardly  
> hinted at what is in this above: "what they need to
> know." What they  
> need to know.
> 
> "What they need to know" could imply steering.
> Parents typically feel  
> they must make this decision for their children, yes? They
> must play  
> god, yes? They must steer them. No? There it is: what they
> need to  
> know. Now then we must ask, "need to know" for
> what? To accomplish  
> what? Is it not natural for parents to have goals for their
> children?  
> That reminds me of many things that many people do, but to
> speak of  
> them would cause a major digression.
> 
> I am ignorant of unschooling but I suspect that "what
> they need to  
> know" is to be self-determined. Left to find their own
> path, they will  
> learn what they need to know to satisfy themselves. Yes?
> No? What are  
> the odds? What are the known results? How sound is our
> godness?
> 
>  From homestead philosophy to schooling philosophy--to life
>  
> philosophy. Let no one say that we homesteaders lack
> curiosity.
> 
> 
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