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Don Bowen              Awl Knotted Up                       KI6DIU
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Don Bowen              Awl Knotted Up                       KI6DIU
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I'm slow at this reply. Sorry, but I have been otherwise occupied recently.

I want to note that if you keep both sheep and goats (I previously raised
sheep, and now I have goats), you MUST take extra care to be sure that the
goats get sufficient mineral supplements, and that the sheep do not have
access to the goat minerals. That generally means separate housing. The
minerals that are necessary for good long-term goat health will KILL a
sheep. Also, though I have not personally experienced this, I was informed
by several experienced sheep farmers when contemplating adding goats to my
sheep farm some years back, that the species CAN cross, but the off-spring
are not viable - the cross produces "geep" which do not survive, and may end
up as a late term abortion. So, for that reason also you may wish to provide
separate housing and pens for those two species. Horses need different
minerals than sheep also. I kept horses with my sheep successfully by
putting the horse mineral up high where the horses could access them and the
sheep could not.

I presently house goats and horses together. The shed is divided into open
accomodations for both species and a separate pen accessible only by goats
and slim people. <grin> I have the opening into the goat shed set so that a
horse could not fit through. I have the goat minerals in the goat pen, so
that the horses cannot indulge and get an over-dose of minerals. The horse
minerals are in a feeder that is high enough that the goats do not attempt
to eat them (plus, I expect they prefer their own anyway).

HTH,

Gloria


On 4/8/07, Judy Anderson <illiinnarra AT verizon.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My name is Judy and I have just joined this list, so I thought I should
> introduce myself.  My husband and I have 5 children, ages 5 months to
> almost 11 years, and we are starting the process of looking for land to
> homestead here in southwestern New Hampshire.  I have some (ancient)
> experience with dairy goats, having raised Toggs in 4H when I was a
> child, but I don't remember much of the details of it.  I mostly just
> remember playing with them and taking care of them for showing.  My
> family is interested in raising goats for milk and meat, sheep for meat
> and wool, chickens (ducks and geese) for meat and eggs (and feathers),
> dogs for all they things they do on farms, cats (ditto), a pig or two
> for meat, and of course, our girls want horses.  My husband is
> interested in hunting and trapping, too, with fishing being a thought as
> well.  (He worships Ted Nugent. :)  )We also want to grow as much of our
> own grains and vegetables as we can, and perhaps we will be lucky enough
> to find a place with an orchard as well.  We are prepared (mentally, at
> least) to build our own home if need be, so our main search right now is
> for acreage.  We know we want a fresh water source, and I am trying to
> calculate how much pasture and field we will need.  We want timber for
> heating and cooking fuel.  I noticed that often times large lots will
> have a good sized chunk of swamp around here.  I have so many questions
> for you, but I will try to stick to the land-related ones first.  We
> have been in urban and suburban places for far too long, so I apologize
> if some questions seem a bit ... elementary.
>
> 1.  Aside from the variety of wildlife, what benefits can we gain from a
> swamp?
> 2.  How can I calculate how much acreage to plant for hay to provide all
> of our own needs?  For other crops for ourselves?
> 3.  What variety would be a good mix of hay to meet all their needs?  I
> remember my folks would sometimes get timothy, but usually it was
> generic hay.  What is in generic hay?
> 4.  Is there any reason not to barn all of the animals together?  We
> want them all to be free ranging to the greatest extent possible, but
> everyone needs shelter still.
> 5.  How can we tell (when considering a property) if a field will need
> irrigation?
>
> Of course, I have many other questions, but these will do for a start.  :)
>
> Thanks,
> Judy