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- From: Bill Jones <billj AT harborside.com>
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- Subject: Re: [Homestead] Ram pump rules of thumb
- Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 15:48:27 -0700
Clansgian AT wmconnect.com wrote:
This is another reason to have a holding tank to feed into the downpipe of a ram pump, besides excluding sediment and bubbles. You can save up a day's water and just pump it once a day to the main gravity-feed storage tank. This siphon stage requires a small vertical drop of its own, so in extreme cases like ours, where there is barely three feet of vertical drop, a very shallow holding tank is in order, so as to not take up much of the vertical drop (fortunately the problem I mentioned previously about having too slow a trickle through the downpipe isn't likely to happen with piping of at least 1/2", so nearly always the holding tank can be just inches tall).
In the mean time, the dry took its toll on the creek. It was still flowing but not enough to operate a RAM pump.
We have a plan to siphon water a short distance over to a small holding tank, from which the downpipe will angle downhill about 100' to the ram pump. It's no longer necessary for us to have a _large_ holding tank just to run the ram pump, since it's now just a winter project, but there are too many obstructions right near the water source, and the downpipe should not curve.
For those blessed with hilly terrain, the bottom of a storage tank can easily be higher than the destination of the water, in many cases, so just siphoning works for me. For those with level ground, a small bilge pump from the marine supply will pump even dirty water on 12V from a reasonably small solar panel (suitable for immediate, two-fisted watering). I'm considering just digging round pits in the ground and lining them with ordinary greenhouse plastic film, which I find incredibly durable (when holey and scratched, the remains still function as shade cloth for plants).
It may be a little difficult to have a below-ground tank feed a ram pump, since it's not convenient to tap from the side. But you can just siphon (on a hill, which we can assume exists, if you're considering a ram) to a tiny intermediate tank close by, and let the downpipe take off from there. (Actually, the more little holding tanks there are between the source and the ram, the less sediment will enter it.)
I've decided on a 32' x 16' x 4' pond in the low spot where nettle now grows. I don't think I'll let the geese in, though, if it's supposed to water the garden, but keep it covered. They appreciate even a small pond, and I can still siphon their waste water to real water-lovers downhill from there, like peaches, or use the bilge pump to move the water uphill. It's the same amount of water either way, so why not arrange things so that the largest pond stays clean? I've worked out the details, and our pond should provide enough water to cover 1500 sq. ft. of beds for the summer.
Bill
S. Oregon coast
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Re: [Homestead] Ram pump rules of thumb
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- Re: [Homestead] Ram pump rules of thumb, Gene GeRue, 09/01/2006
- Re: [Homestead] Ram pump rules of thumb, clhw, 09/01/2006
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Re: [Homestead] Ram pump rules of thumb,
Clansgian, 09/01/2006
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[Homestead] Water, water, water, was Ram pump rules of thumb,
Gene GeRue, 09/02/2006
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Re: [Homestead] Water, water, water, was Ram pump rules of thumb,
SISU!, 09/02/2006
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Re: [Homestead] Water, water, water, was Ram pump rules of thumb,
Gene GeRue, 09/02/2006
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Re: [Homestead] Water, water, water, was Ram pump,
SISU!, 09/04/2006
- Re: [Homestead] Water, water, water, was Ram pump, Gene GeRue, 09/04/2006
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Re: [Homestead] Water, water, water, was Ram pump,
SISU!, 09/04/2006
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Re: [Homestead] Water, water, water, was Ram pump rules of thumb,
Gene GeRue, 09/02/2006
- Re: [Homestead] Water, water, water, was Ram pump rules of thumb, Don Bowen, 09/02/2006
- Re: [Homestead] Water, water, water, was Ram pump rules of thumb, Lynda, 09/02/2006
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Re: [Homestead] Water, water, water, was Ram pump rules of thumb,
SISU!, 09/02/2006
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Re: [Homestead] Ram pump rules of thumb,
Bill Jones, 09/02/2006
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Re: [Homestead] Ram pump rules of thumb,
SISU!, 09/04/2006
- Re: [Homestead] Ram pump rules of thumb, Bill Jones, 09/04/2006
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Re: [Homestead] Ram pump rules of thumb,
SISU!, 09/04/2006
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[Homestead] Water, water, water, was Ram pump rules of thumb,
Gene GeRue, 09/02/2006
- Re: [Homestead] Ram pump rules of thumb, Bill Jones, 09/01/2006
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