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["Toni Hawryluk" <tonihawr AT msn.com>]

Bill admitted : <g>
> Of course, my fascist demands that everyone become enlightened to the same 
> extent that I am, and scrupulously avoid all the foods I've condemned, 
> probably has more to do with my desire to control others, than it does with 
> any feigned concern for the price of health insurance or the evils of 
> socialism.

Not much point in yelling "watch it" to
somebody with one foot off the cliff and
already overbalanced, is there ....
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----- Original Message ----- From: Gene GeRue<mailto:genegerue AT ruralize.com> 
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>Drowning In Health Care Costs? 
>
>December 02, 2004
>
>Texans Deserve Lifeboats Off The Health Care Titanic
>
>By Chris Patterson
>
>One of four Texans lack health insurance and one of five children live 
>below the federal poverty threshold. For financially-strapped Texans, 
>health care is a daunting challenge.

While my sympathy is with those affected the most,
this is not news to millions of people "in the same boat"
(which is sinking) but coming at the same time as the
TransTexasCorridor monumental waste of money/land
it's Strike Two against anything about Texas - Strike One
is in the Wh___ House and Texans, along with a lot of
others, either put it or helped by default to put it there ...
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Lynda asked"
" Not that he will really block your posts, he said that about me too but 
still comes back to rant when I post.  We should be so lucky as to really not 
be part of his harddrive anymore!

Maybe not - might be picking up the
"squibs and crackers" from replies of
people *not* blocked ... <g>
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Don Bowen wrote:

> In today's paper there was an editorial addressing the two schools of
> thought on the fall of the Dollar.
>
> The other school claims a much more dire scenario.  Paul Volker (the
> fed chairman before Greenspan) is expecting a further slide to as much
> as 40% of its current value.  He is saying that if the slide is not
> arrested then we will see a spike in interest rates, a slowdown of
> economic growth, and heavy inflation.  He is concerned that the fall
> is endangering oil countries profits and will they demand higher
> prices and a shift away from the dollar.  Foreign investors who have
> kept up the dollar up may quit and shift investment to other
> currencies such as the Euro.

This is what I have read for six months and with Bush's re-election it
has intensified.  Last winter I read Financial Reckoning Day by Bonner
and Wiggins, they suggested the U.S. economy is paralleling Japan's
economy with a ten+ year delay.  How bad does it have to get before we
have a depression?  Please excuse my rusty economics (intend to brush up
over winter), when do we go from recession to depression?  It looks like
mitigating factors are against us for a positive outcome, unless we have
drastic changes for the better.  We're more technologically advanced and
have a larger population now than during the depression of the 30's.
Would a depression occurring in our current time have a worse impact?
Perhaps the silver lining would be that it could be good for us as a
country in the long run.