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  • From: Karel Hanhart <K.Hanhart AT net.HCC.nl>
  • To: Kata Markon <gmark AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
  • Subject: Re: gmark digest: February 22, 2001
  • Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:31:07 +0100


>
>
> Subject: Judas and Jesus
> From: JFAlward AT aol.com
> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:48:02 EST
> X-Message-Number: 2
>
> Is anyone aware of a plausible solution for the problem of Judas's "signal"
> to the arresting crowd? The only explanation that makes sense to me is that
> a later Mark added 44-45 for reasons unknown. Without those verses, the
> betrayal and arrest passage flows more smoothly and makes complete sense;
> with it, however, we are unable to understand why the chief priests, who
> knew
> Jesus, needed someone to identify him.
>
> If anyone knows of a betrayal with a kiss in first century literature that a
> Mark might have had access to, and a reason to use here, that might solve
> our
> problem.
>

Not in first century literature. But elsewhere (Open Tomb p.449) I proposed to
interpret the incident as a midrash on LXX 2 Sam 20,9, where Joab met Amasa
with a kiss
and a greeting, "Is it well with you, my brother? For precisely the next
verse (v.10)
is quoted in the account of Judas' suicide in Acts 1,18, " Joab struck him
[with the
sword] in the belly so that his entrails poured out on the ground." In other
words the
blow with which Judas ( representing the high priest) wanted to kill Jesus,
turned upon
himself. With S. Sandmel I believe Judas is fictive. Judas incorporates in
my view a
series of highpriests (in Mark always in the plural) and in his person he is
acting out
their misdeeds which in turn delivered the death stroke on themselves and
the temple
(70 CE)

K. Hanhart.

>
> The middle passage below is the one that doesn't seem to belong:
>
> Then Judas Iscariot, one of the Twelve, went to the chief priests to betray
> Jesus to them. They were delighted to hear this and promised to give him
> money. So he watched for an opportunity to hand him over. (Mark
> 14:10-11)..."The hour has come. Look, the Son of Man is betrayed into the
> hands of sinners. Rise! Let us go! Here comes my betrayer!" Just as he was
> speaking, Judas, one of the Twelve, appeared. With him was a crowd armed
> with
> swords and clubs, sent from the chief priests, the teachers of the law, and
> the elders. (Mark 14:41-43)
>
> Now the betrayer had arranged a signal with them: "The one I kiss is the
> man;
> arrest him and lead him away under guard." Going at once to Jesus, Judas
> said, "Rabbi!" and kissed him. (Mark 14:44-45)
>
> The men seized Jesus and arrested him. Then one of those standing near drew
> his sword and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his ear.
> "Am
> I leading a rebellion," said Jesus, "that you have come out with swords and
> clubs to capture me? Every day I was with you, teaching in the temple
> courts, and you did not arrest me. But the Scriptures must be fulfilled."
> Then everyone deserted him and fled. (Mark 14:46-50)
>
>
> Joe Alward
> http://members.aol.com/jalw/joseph_alward.html
>
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