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  • From: Chris Kings-Lynne <Chris.Kings-Lynne AT navitas.com>
  • To: FreeTDS Development Group <freetds AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [freetds] Problem with message handler
  • Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 02:08:45 +0000

I would love to jump in and work on type support, etc. however with a new
baby and busy job I'm afraid it's just not going to happen :(

Chris

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[mailto:freetds-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Frediano Ziglio
Sent: Thursday, 3 October 2013 4:55 PM
To: FreeTDS Development Group
Subject: Re: [freetds] Problem with message handler

2013/10/3 James K. Lowden <jklowden AT freetds.org>:
> On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 04:01:40 +0000
> Chris Kings-Lynne <Chris.Kings-Lynne AT navitas.com> wrote:
>
>> Surely you guys have got releasing down to 'make dist' by now? :)
>
> You remind me of a boss I once had who in meetings would ask of some
> task, "Who's going to push the button?"
>
> We actually "make dist" every night; it's been automated for years. A
> release though -- if you're serious about it -- requires
>
> 1. a review of the changes
> 2 a summary of them in the release notes
> 3. a review of the documentation (which usually involves some fixes
> and
> improvements)
> 4. branching in the source code repository 5. changes to the nightly
> build (because version changes affect directory names)
> 6 advertisements
> 7. updates to the website
>
> I've never done it in less than two days.
>
> To make it worthwhile, I prefer there to be some major addition to the
> feature set, a reason for people to drop what they're doing and
> upgrade their FreeTDS installation. At present, ISTM full support for
> TDS 7.3 would be a good milestone, but so far the only 7.3 support we
> have is in the ODBC library.
>

Mmm... I think there are also:
- IPv6 support (thanks to Peter)
- MARS
- wide characters supported by default with ODBC (or was 0.91 ?)
- protocol 7.2 for db-lib
- experimental support for cmake (this will make Windows developer happier)
- stream bcp support
- surely something I don't remember :-)

> I've been at the helm of this project for about 10 years. I worked on
> testing, error handling, iconv, and low-level communcations issues.
> Frediano and I are both fanatical about writing standards-compliant,
> safe code, and I would like to think that the care we took has made
> FreeTDS reliable and robust.
>
> We may actually have done too good a job. FreeTDS may suffer from the
> "good enough" syndrome: it could be improved, but it functions well
> enough that no one is particularly motivated to hack on it.
> Perhaps bugs are better motivators than features?
>
> I'm sure I've spent more hours answering questions and writing
> documentation than I have writing code. I'm prepared to keep doing
> that, but I don't have a lot of interest anymore in tinkering with
> DB-Library. Someone else is going to have to carry that ball.
>
> I continue to hope someone will, but so far no one has. Consequently
> there isn't much to release, and not much reason to push the button.
>
> --jkl

Personally I would like that people came with more patches than request. I
understand people that ask for new feature (like dblib type extensions or
asynchronous support) but I also like to see some more low level stuff and
collaboration.

This reminds me that I still have to merge some stuff from gitorious :(

Frediano
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