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  • From: "Stephen C. Carlson" <scarlson AT mindspring.com>
  • To: "Corpus-paul" <corpus-paul AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
  • Subject: Re: corpus-paul digest: June 03, 1999
  • Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 22:59:24 -0400


At 01:54 AM 6/5/99 -0400, David C. Hindley wrote:
>Determination of the date of composition of 1 Clement is affected by the NT
>books that it quotes or possibly alludes to. Using a crude database based on
>volume 1 of the Ante Nicene Fathers series (Eerdmans reprint), these quotes
>("Q") and allusions ("A") are:
>
>CLEMENT1 Q TIT 03:01
>
>Several of the books quoted (such as 2 Peter, James, Acts and Titus) are
>generally assigned dates of composition in the 2nd century CE. Even if a case
>can be made for 1st century dates for any one of them, how many would apply
>an
>early date to -all- of them? 1 Clement, then, would appear to be either late
>or interpolated. Again, the value of this book as a witness is eroded.

There is a another possibility: this 19th century identification of quotations
was far too ambitious to be taken seriously. Let's take the alleged quotation
of Tit. 3:1 as an example. 1 Clem. 2:7 says in the Loeb translation (by K.
Lake):
You were without regret in every act of kindness, "ready unto
every good work."

Although the quotation marks in the English translation and the marginal
cross-reference to Tit. 3,1 makes this appear to be a quotation, there
really is little basis for concluding so.

This quotation is not introduced as quotation in any way. The Greek
text, of course, does not have the quotation marks, and the so-called
quotation flows well in the sentence.

Furthermore, the Greek texts are not exact. 1 Clem 2:7 is hETOIMOI
EIS PAN ERGON AGAQON, but Tit 3:1 has PROS PAN ERGON AGAQON hETOIMOUS,
with a different preposition and a different word order.

A cursory glance at the other "quotations" indicates that most of
them are not so.

Stephen Carlson
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