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  • From: "Soil Foodweb, Inc." <info AT soilfoodweb.com>
  • To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org, hoeppner AT mars.ark.com
  • Subject: [Compostteas] Scale on Orange Tree leaves
  • Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:56:10 -0500

Hi Ed -

Using good tea, with excellent fungal biomass in it, we have been able to get
scale
on rhododendron and on apple to disappear. This is another situation that
requires
good fungal biomass in the tea to have success. I expect that scale on other
plants
could be prevented with good tea applications, but we do not have data on
other
plants.

If other people do, please let the list know!

We typically do not see the sooty mold that typically develops after scale
gets
going, because the beneficial organisms consume the honey dew produced by the
scale
so the sooty mold doesn't have a food to grow on.

We've looked just a bit at what situations are impacted by bacterial tea
versus
full-organism compost tea. Fusarium, such as snow mold, appears to be
prevented by
just a bacterial tea. Some Rhizoctonia species can be prevented, but not all
species. Some Rhizoctonia appear to require the full bacterial plus fungal
tea in
order to prevent the Rhioctonia from growing.

Anthracnose on crowns of plants, on roots, or in soil needs a strong fungal
component
in hte tea, while foliar anthracnose seems preventable with just a bacterial
tea.

Since this whole area of work is in it's infancy, we don't have replicated,
scientific studies done yet. We need to get these kinds of tests done for
all these
different plants and different situations. We need to encourage the USDA and
extension service to provide for funding these kinds of studies. Or an
industry-wide
council to "tax" commercial compost tea companies so a research fund can be
put
together so these studies can be done.

Elaine Ingham


>
> I have a miniature orange tree growing in a solarium. It has been =
> attacked by 'Scale'. Does anyone know if compost or casting tea spray =
> would be effective at eradicating this?
>
> Regards,
> Ed Hoeppner
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:59:53 -0400
> To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> From: Allan Balliett <igg AT igg.com>
> Subject: Re: [Compostteas] Software test 2
> Reply-To:
>
> Jeff - You need to put a value in the 'reply-to' field. It's blank
> now and when I use Eudora to reply, the 'to:' field comes up BLANK.
>
> I appreciate your progress.
>
> -Allan
>
> --__--__--
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> Message: 8
> From: "Jeff Lowenfels" <jeff AT gardener.com>
> To: <compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>, "Allan Balliett" <igg AT igg.com>
> Subject: Re: [Compostteas] Software test 3
> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:17:46 -0800
> Reply-To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
>
> Allen suggested: Jeff - You need to put a value in the 'reply-to' field.
> It's blank
> now and when I use Eudora to reply, the 'to:' field comes up BLANK.
>
> I appreciate your progress.
>
> -Allan
>
> and I am trying it again.
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:40:07 -0400
> To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> From: Allan Balliett <igg AT igg.com>
> Subject: Re: [Compostteas] Software test 3
> Reply-To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
>
> This one worked GREAT, Jeff!
>
> Thanks
>
> -Allan
>
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> Message: 10
> From: "Jeff Lowenfels" <jeff AT gardener.com>
> To: <compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [Compostteas] Software test 3 did not work for me
> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:49:08 -0800
> Reply-To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
>
> <<<<<This one worked GREAT, Jeff!
>
> <<<Thanks
>
> -Allan
>
> Ah, but it doesn't work on outlook express. I can't figure out how to easily
> reply directly to you!
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> Message: 11
> From: "Lloyd Charles" <lcharles AT webfront.net.au>
> To: <compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [Compostteas] Software test 3
> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:11:18 +1000
> Reply-To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Allan Balliett <igg AT igg.com>
> To: <compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 1:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Compostteas] Software test 3
>
> > This one worked GREAT, Jeff!
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > -Allan
> Yep this is good
> LCharles
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> Message: 12
> From: "Jeff Lowenfels" <jeff AT gardener.com>
> To: <compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [Compostteas] Software test 4 Lloyd and Allan only!
> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:02:54 -0800
> Reply-To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
>
> Gotta try this one, too. It is the only way I can make sure it is set
> right.1
>
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> Message: 13
> From: "Jeff Lowenfels" <jeff AT gardener.com>
> To: <Compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 20:10:20 -0800
> Subject: [Compostteas] software test five for lloyd and Allan
>
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> Message: 14
> From: "Scott Alexander" <daylily AT bigpond.com>
> To: <compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [Compostteas] One more try of new setting
> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:08:37 +1000
>
> Me too. I have enough messages coming in already.
> Scott
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <compostteas-admin AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> To: <compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [Compostteas] One more try of new setting
>
> > I agree with Lloyd Charles.
> > Essie Hull
> >
> > At 08:30 AM 07/15/02 +1000, you wrote:
> >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: <compostteas-admin AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > >To: <Compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > >Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:48 AM
> > >Subject: [Compostteas] One more try of new setting
> > >
> > >
> > > > Under this system, you will only see the compostteas address. Is this
> > > > acceptable to folks? What it means is when you hit reply the default
> is
> > >to
> > > > the list, not to the original sender. If you want to be contacted off
> > >list,
> > > > you need would need to include your address either in the CC or in the
> > >body
> > > > of the message
> > >
> > >Hello Jeff
> > > Don't know what the rest of the list thinks but I don't
> like
> > >this system. I would much rather have the option of replying off list to
> > >some posts if I think thats needed. BDnow has been going for a fair while
> > >and we can do this if we like on there.
> > >Cheers
> > >Lloyd Charles
> > >
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> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 05:47:35 +0000
> Subject: [Compostteas] Re: Compostteas digest, Vol 1 #73 - 15 msgs
>
> Att Carol About your tea brewer. Please contact me
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> > To: <compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>, "Allan Balliett" <igg AT igg.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Compostteas] Be considerate
> > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:37:19 -0800
> > From: compostteas-admin AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Reply-To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >
> > Re Allen suggestion on the reply default:. Unless you hit "Reply to all"
> > the rest of the list doesn't get the response.
> > Allan, thanks for the tip. I will see if I can adjust that! I am not sure
> > the program will let me, but I will give it a try! I just unilaterally
> > changed the way messages are posted. After this message, apparently the
> > "sender" address will not be shown. Let me test it and see if this
> > helps...
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Your faithful tea making servant.
> >
> >
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> > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:42:25 -0800
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> > Reply-To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Subject: [Compostteas] Test of new setting
> >
> > This is from Jeff and is merely a test
> >
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> > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:48:31 -0800
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> > Subject: [Compostteas] One more try of new setting
> >
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> > to
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> > list,
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> > body
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> > from......
> >
> > In this quasi democracy of a news list community, we do accept feedback
> > though we don't always listen. If this setting is not acceptable, let us
> > know and we can change it back.
> >
> >
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> > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:24:04 -0600
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:22:13 -0500
> > To: TimelesEnt AT aol.com
> > Cc: "Compost tea List Serve" <compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>,
> > "Mina, Vincent/Irene" <mauimina AT t-link.net>
> > Organization: Soil Foodweb Inc.
> > Subject: Re: [Compostteas] chromatography
> > From: compostteas-admin AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Reply-To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >
> > Hi Carol -
> >
> > Let's keep sight of why paper chromatography was suggested. The point is
> > to
> > have a simple test that is easy. Convenient. Not difficult. On-site.
> > Cheap
> > - coffee filter or whatman filter paper #1, and a drop of your tea is
> > pretty
> > inexpensive.
> >
> > Isn't the fact that it takes 24 hours to get the data back from SFI, and
> > TAFB
> > costs $80, the reason why folks are looking for something less expensive,
> > easy
> > to run on each batch? Use the SFI test on occasion to confirm that your
> > method
> > is each-batch testing is telling you that the tea is good.
> >
> > Are chromas faster than 24 hours? No. The extraction of the material
> > you put
> > on the filter paper to do the chroma test takes 24 hours (and requires
> > sodium
> > hydroxide for the extraction - not nice stuff). Once they have been
> > developed
> > - three to four days later and using more nasty stuff - what do they
> > mean? I
> > know no one that can tell you what the different patterns mean. What
> > compound
> > is each band? No one has ever been able to explain that to me. I'd love
> > to do
> > the work and figure it out. Send funding.
> >
> > Chromas require the use of toxic chemicals. The amount of silver
> > nitrate, gold
> > nitrate or ferric sulfate needed to do chroma tests is significant. The
> > reagents are metals, nitrates, sulfates and you have to dispose of them
> > correctly. I dislike contributing to more pollution if we don't have to
> > use
> > these chemicals.
> >
> > Realistically, the chroma tests have to be sent to a lab to be done
> > correctly.
> > They are not cheap, they are not fast, they cost money, they are
> > difficult to
> > interpret. None of these are reasons we embarked on this discussion about
> > simple, easy-to-use, immediate results to tell if your tea is poor, ok,
> > good or
> > excellent. Doing an SFI test is faster, cheaper, easier to interpret.
> > Tells
> > you something different though.
> >
> > The point of doing paper chromatography is to have something EASY, that
> > you DO
> > RIGHT AT THE TEA MAKER.
> >
> > So, if you want to talk about chromas, we should form a thread about that.
> > Could we start a thread that calls itself "BD CHROMA", and keep on with
> > the
> > filter paper thread as something separate?
> >
> > So, I would like a group of people to try the filter paper to see if it
> > would
> > give useful patterns. Please try it, and then tell everyone else how it
> > worked. Clear patterns? Nothing useful? What about different paper
> > materials? Works better.
> >
> > The beauty is that IF this tells us something useful, everyone could do
> > it.
> > I'd do the work to relate it to the SFI tests. What do the different
> > patterns
> > mean? But we need some observations first. Give it a try. Report what
> > happens.
> >
> > OK?
> >
> > Elaine
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Elaine Ingham
> >
> > P.S.
> > Hey, I've been elected a trustee for the Maui organic growers group!
> > This is
> > marvelous! I'll be doing a Farm Tour in Hana in August! Everyone is
> > invited -
> > ok, you have to pay money, but the person to contact is Vince Mina
> > mauimina AT t-link.net See you there!
> >
> > Here's the background for my comment -
> >
> > TimelesEnt AT aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > In a message dated 7/14/02 1:06:30 AM, ggerrard AT resonant.com.au writes:
> > >
> > > << >
> > > >We would have to do some testing to see if this would actually be
> > > >indicative of good tea. So, who wants to work on this with me?
> > > >
> > > >Elaine Ingham
> > > >Soil Foodweb Inc.
> > > >
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >
> > > Hi Elaine,
> > > I used to be a chemist, and I'm interested in doing whatever I can to
> > > help.
> > > Haven't been able to save up enough money to buy my one gallon Alaskan
> > > tea
> > > brewer yet, so I don't have any tea to test.
> > > I noticed that iron sulphate was mentioned along with silver and gold
> > > compounds.
> > > I don't know why that wouldn't be usable, harmless and inexpensive.
> > >
> > > Gee, I wish I had a lab.
> > > Carol
> >
> >
> > -- __--__--
> >
> > Message: 7
> > To: <compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Compostteas] One more try of new setting
> > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:30:39 +1000
> > From: compostteas-admin AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Reply-To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <compostteas-admin AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > To: <Compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:48 AM
> > Subject: [Compostteas] One more try of new setting
> >
> >
> > > Under this system, you will only see the compostteas address. Is this
> > > acceptable to folks? What it means is when you hit reply the default is
> > to
> > > the list, not to the original sender. If you want to be contacted off
> > list,
> > > you need would need to include your address either in the CC or in the
> > body
> > > of the message
> >
> > Hello Jeff
> > Don't know what the rest of the list thinks but I don't
> > like
> > this system. I would much rather have the option of replying off list to
> > some posts if I think thats needed. BDnow has been going for a fair while
> > and we can do this if we like on there.
> > Cheers
> > Lloyd Charles
> >
> >
> > -- __--__--
> >
> > Message: 8
> > To: <compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Compostteas] One more try of new setting
> > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:23:42 -0800
> > From: compostteas-admin AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Reply-To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >
> > Keep those messages coming re the new setting. So far the vote is
> > tie.....jeff AT gardener.com
> >
> >
> > -- __--__--
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:24:05 -0400
> > To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Subject: Re: [Compostteas] One more try of new setting
> > From: compostteas-admin AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Reply-To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >
> > I agree with Lloyd Charles.
> > Essie Hull
> >
> > At 08:30 AM 07/15/02 +1000, you wrote:
> >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: <compostteas-admin AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > >To: <Compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > >Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:48 AM
> > >Subject: [Compostteas] One more try of new setting
> > >
> > >
> > > > Under this system, you will only see the compostteas address. Is this
> > > > acceptable to folks? What it means is when you hit reply the default
> > > > is
> > >to
> > > > the list, not to the original sender. If you want to be contacted off
> > >list,
> > > > you need would need to include your address either in the CC or in the
> > >body
> > > > of the message
> > >
> > >Hello Jeff
> > > Don't know what the rest of the list thinks but I don't
> > > like
> > >this system. I would much rather have the option of replying off list to
> > >some posts if I think thats needed. BDnow has been going for a fair while
> > >and we can do this if we like on there.
> > >Cheers
> > >Lloyd Charles
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >Compostteas mailing list
> > >Compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > >http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/compostteas
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- __--__--
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:20:48 -0400
> > To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Subject: Re: [Compostteas] One more try of new setting
> > From: compostteas-admin AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Reply-To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >
> > Jeff -
> >
> > I'd say the votes were not voting for the same thing.
> > I moderate BD Now! The way it is set up is that replies automatically
> > go the list (which is the way it should be), but everyone (everyone
> > with a decent email tool, that is!) receives the sender's email also
> > (in the header), so, manually, any recipient can reply off-line to
> > the sender.
> >
> > If a list caters to off-line conversations, it soon becomes pretty
> > empty itself.
> >
> > IMHO, of course, -Allan
> >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: <compostteas-admin AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > >To: <Compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > >Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:48 AM
> > >Subject: [Compostteas] One more try of new setting
> > >
> > >
> > >> Under this system, you will only see the compostteas address. Is this
> > >> acceptable to folks? What it means is when you hit reply the default
> > >> is
> > >to
> > >> the list, not to the original sender. If you want to be contacted off
> > >list,
> > >> you need would need to include your address either in the CC or in the
> > >body
> > >> of the message
> > >
> > >Hello Jeff
> > > Don't know what the rest of the list thinks but I don't
> > > like
> > >this system. I would much rather have the option of replying off list to
> > >some posts if I think thats needed. BDnow has been going for a fair while
> > >and we can do this if we like on there.
> > >Cheers
> > >Lloyd Charles
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >Compostteas mailing list
> > >Compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > >http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/compostteas
> >
> >
> > -- __--__--
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:22:32 -0400
> > To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Subject: Re: [Compostteas] One more try of new setting
> > From: compostteas-admin AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Reply-To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >
> > In addition, it is REALLY irritating to not be able to see the
> > senders id in the 'from' column of my received mail file.
> >
> > Jeff, there must be another option.
> >
> > -Allan
> >
> > -- __--__--
> >
> > Message: 12
> > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:39:42 EDT
> > Subject: Re: [Compostteas] chromatography
> > To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > From: compostteas-admin AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Reply-To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 7/14/02 2:19:43 PM, compostteas-admin AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > writes:
> >
> > << So, if you want to talk about chromas, we should form a thread about
> > that.
> > Could we start a thread that calls itself "BD CHROMA", and keep on with
> > the
> > filter paper thread as something separate? >>
> >
> >
> > -- __--__--
> >
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:53:00 EDT
> > Subject: Re: [Compostteas] chromatography
> > To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > From: compostteas-admin AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Reply-To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 7/14/02 2:19:43 PM, compostteas-admin AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > writes:
> >
> > << So, if you want to talk about chromas, we should form a thread about
> > that.
> > Could we start a thread that calls itself "BD CHROMA", and keep on with
> > the
> > filter paper thread as something separate? >>
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > I don't know why my computer sent out the mail before I had a chance to
> > write
> > my message.
> >
> > Chroma I understand. What does BD stand for? I don't think ferric
> > sulfate
> > is toxic, or polluting in small quantities. The thing I read before said
> > iron sulfate, which could be ferrous sulfate. Relatively harmless also.
> > ???
> >
> > I'd like to experiment with filter paper, after I save up enough money to
> > get
> > my tea-maker. A drop on the paper, or dip a strip. Not coffee filters
> > probably, although if some consistent results come with filter paper, a
> > comparison could be made. I wonder if the unbleached coffee filters would
> > work any better. The scale I think of would be compostable,
> > (compostible?)
> > Non-polluting. Maybe later. I've got nothing to work with right now.
> >
> > Haven't quit thinking about forests, either.
> > TTYL
> > Carol
> >
> > -- __--__--
> >
> > Message: 14
> > To: <compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Compostteas] One more try of new setting
> > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:58:21 -0800
> > From: compostteas-admin AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Reply-To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >
> > Can I enlist your help? Here is the administrative site. Tool around and
> > see what you can find! I set the password to PIZZA
> >
> >
> > -- __--__--
> >
> > Message: 15
> > To: <compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Compostteas] One more try of new setting
> > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:14:13 +1000
> > From: compostteas-admin AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Reply-To: compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <compostteas-admin AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > To: <compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Compostteas] One more try of new setting
> >
> >
> > > In addition, it is REALLY irritating to not be able to see the
> > > senders id in the 'from' column of my received mail file.
> > EXTREMELY irritating specially when you want to go back looking for some
> > particular posting
> > Lloyd Charles
> > >
> > > Jeff, there must be another option.
> > >
> > > -Allan
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
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