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  • From: Scott Radway <scott AT radwaydesign.com>
  • To: Jeff York <jyork AT townofchapelhill.org>
  • Cc: chpac-staff AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Chpac-staff] Tobacco Road
  • Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:43:32 -0500

First let me say I am a great admirer of Dean Smith for his social and ethical values and his coaching abilities.  But, as a not UNC graduate, I was not a fan of his for UNC basketball because his teams always beat the teams I liked.

I presume that Ben Perry has the right to use an image of Mr. Smith and would like to see some proof of that in our town files if these images remain.

I don't see how the proposed images are signs even though they are totally about advertising.

As for art.  We have lots of murals on full or partial sides of buildings.
This proposal could fit under the "art on private property" concept.  Mostly this seems to me to be a CDC item and that the proposal is for an altered building elevation.

I don't know how many windows and stairwells in town that might want to do this same approach, but I would think that there are several.

My vote would be to allow the proposed window/signage/art/mural or whatever we determine it should be called.  We need some visual liveliness - even though this is pretty subdued.

Hope everyone has a good holiday.



Scott Radway, AICP

Radway Design Associates
1705 Allard Road
Chapel Hill, NC 27514

919.880.5579 (direct/mobile)
919.942.5929 (fax)





On Nov 20, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Jeff York wrote:

Commissioners,  attached are images from the 54 west photo murals hung on the inside of a private sports bar.  In order for them to remain,  the CDC and CHPAC need to weigh in if they are signage or art?  At current, those are the only two categories Planning has for such items.  Perhaps there needs to be another category, which I am sure we will want to discuss.  Also below is the CH sign ordinance for your reference.  At our December meeting, CHPAC will conduct a courtesy review and be asked to comment on these photo murals.  Prior to the meeting,  I would like you to review the murals and let me know if there are concerns with these items being classified for regulation purposes as art.  It is not this commission’s duty to rule if any of the sign ordinance specifics have been violated (size, location, etc.);  CDC will do that, but we should discuss what constitutes a mural.  As always a courtesy review carries no binding enforcement, but in this case,  I am sure the commission’s comments will matter.  Please call me if you have any questions.  Happy Thanksgiving to all.   Jy
 
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Jeffrey York
Public & Cultural Arts Administrator
Division of Public andt Cultural Arts
Parks & Recreation Department
Town of Chapel Hill
200 Plant Rd.
Chapel Hill, NC 27514

Phone: (919) 968-2750
Fax: (919) 932-2923

Help create a new Comprehensive Plan at http://www.chapelhill2020.org.
 
 
From: Ben Perry [mailto:bperry AT ewp-nc.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 1:44 PM
To: Kay Pearlstein; Judy Johnson
Cc: Chelsea Laws; Jeff York
Subject: RE: Tobacco Road
 
Kay/Jeff,
 
Please find attached some photos of the murals on East 54 for the review of CDC and the Arts Commission.  Please let me know if you need anything else.  We look forward to seeing you in the coming weeks.
 
Regards,
Ben Perry
 
Benjamin S. Perry
East West Partners Management Company, Inc. 
Finance Director
1450 Environ Way
Chapel Hill NC 27517
(o) (919) 929-0660
(f) (919) 967-0959
(c) (919) 428-5261
 
 
 

From: Kay Pearlstein [mailto:kpearlstein AT townofchapelhill.org] 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 2:18 PM
To: Ben Perry; Judy Johnson
Cc: Chelsea Laws; Jeff York
Subject: RE: Tobacco Road

Ben, for a Courtesy Review you do not need to get your application in on a deadline which means that you could go the November 28th Community Design Commission meeting rather than the Dec. meeting. I will need some digital information to post on the web today or tomorrow if you choose to go to the Nov. Community Design Commission meeting. There is no application nor fee.
 
Email is best because my phone log has become lengthy since my time away from the office. Let me know what you decide.
 
Kay
 
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Kay Pearlstein, AICP
Senior Planner
Current Development
Planning
Town of Chapel Hill
405 Martin Luther King Jr Blvd
Chapel Hill, NC 27514-5705

Phone: (919) 968-2728
Fax: (919) 969-2014

Help create a new Comprehensive Plan at www.townofchapelhill.org/2020.
 
 
 
 
 
 
From: Ben Perry [mailto:bperry AT ewp-nc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:56 PM
To: Judy Johnson
Cc: Kay Pearlstein; Chelsea Laws; Jeff York
Subject: RE: Tobacco Road
 
Thank you, Judy.
 
Jeff and Kay, I will give you a call to coordinate getting on your respective agendas.
 
-Ben
 
Benjamin S. Perry
East West Partners Management Company, Inc. 
Finance Director
1450 Environ Way
Chapel Hill NC 27517
(o) (919) 929-0660
(f) (919) 967-0959
(c) (919) 428-5261
 

From: Judy Johnson [mailto:jjohnson AT townofchapelhill.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:40 PM
To: Ben Perry
Cc: Kay Pearlstein; Chelsea Laws; Jeff York
Subject: Tobacco Road
 
Ben
 
Regarding the murals that have been placed at Tobacco Road at East 54, we consider them art (not signage) but they still need to be reviewed and approved by the Chapel Hill Art Commission as well as a courtesy review by the Community Design Commission.
 
I will talk with Chelsea Laws about the Certificate of Occupancy being contingent on approval of these two advisory boards.  That the business could proceed with the CO but would need approval of the two advisory boards within a certain period of time (60 days?) to have the murals remain.
 
I believe the deadline for the December Community Design Commission is Monday with Kay Pearlstein.  Please contact her on Monday regarding what she will need for the Community Design Commission.
 
I’ve copied Jeff York, with the Town’s Public Art Commission.  Please contact him as well to have the murals before the Arts Commission.
 
Judy
 
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Judy Johnson
Senior Planner
Planning
Town of Chapel Hill
405 Martin Luther King Jr Blvd
Chapel Hill, NC 27514-5705

Phone: (919) 969-5078
Fax: (919) 969-2014

Help create a new Comprehensive Plan at www.townofchapelhill.org/2020.
 
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