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  • From: Kelsey Wiens <kelseywiens AT gmail.com>
  • To: Simeon Oriko <simeonoriko AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: "Dorothy K. Gordon" <director-general AT aiti-kace.com.gh>, Alex Gakuru <gakuru AT creativecommons.org>, CC Africa mailing list <ccafrica AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [ccAfrica] CC global network strategy meeting - Kill it! - Fix it! - Add it!
  • Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 06:51:14 -0400

Sure - Anyone who wants to chat on it is welcome to -anyone who doesn't does not have too - it's not a formal CC communication tool just a way for some of us to keep in touch. 

I revert to Simone's comments  - is there any comments on day one  meeting? 

K

On Thursday, May 19, 2016, Simeon Oriko <simeonoriko AT gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for those thoughts.

Any thoughts on the Global Network Strategy meeting day 1 summary specifically? This was the main purpose of the email.

There's another summary email on its way I believe.

Kind Regards,

Simeon Oriko

Sent from my iPhone




On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 2:50 AM -0700, "Dorothy K. Gordon" <director-general AT aiti-kace.com.gh> wrote:

Totally agree with you. I do not do Whatsapp either for the very same reasons. Hopefully we can find a less problematic technology to connect us.  By the way Alex give me a call when you can we really need to raise awareness on these issues.

best

Dorothy K. Gordon
Director-General
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Direct Line: 233 302 683579
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Gakuru" 
To: "Tobias Schonwetter" 
Cc: "CC Africa mailing list" 
Sent: Thursday, 19 May, 2016 9:35:52 AM GMT +00:00 Casablanca / Monrovia
Subject: Re: [ccAfrica] CC global network strategy meeting - Kill it! - Fix it! - Add it!





Hello, 

Here is my half-a-cent contribution ;-) 

I prefer to separate my private communications devices and installed software (some of which are technically terrible on privacy intrusions) from my work communications. That way, I can uninstall whatever mobile apps upset me the most -- as and when I get convinced of it. In the interconnected world (" DPI " we happily renamed it 'Deep Privacy Invasion') has become the new apps default, and we we're helping deepen surveillance society. We have are the quarries being mined of our personal data and information. See talk Free is a Lie by Aral Balkan, perhaps explaining why uninstalled WhatsApp on the day Facebook purchased it. 



Please note claiming that I do not have *any* of these apps on my phone. But with the help of tools, such as SnoopWall independently reviewed here , I closely monitor all my phone's installed apps unauthorised activities to decide if and when to block or completely unistall any such. 

Therefore: Requiring WhatApp (and or any other mobile app *as mandatory*) is out for me. Optional, perhaps but backed-up by other traditional non-instrusive official communication channels. True to it, Affiliates on my current chat app know that have never required any of them to have installed, but only if they so desire, and I wish to remain on one such... 




Btw, don't allow yourself to fall for 'I've Got Nothing to Hide' and Other Misunderstandings of Privacy 1 flawed argument. If nobody had absolutely anything to hide, then why shouldn't cameras be installed in all bathrooms? 



Thanks for reading, 



Alex 


1 Solove, Daniel J., 'I've Got Nothing to Hide' and Other Misunderstandings of Privacy. San Diego Law Review, Vol. 44, p. 745, 2007; GWU Law School Public Law Research Paper No. 289. Available at SSRN: http://ssrn.com/abstract=998565 


On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Tobias Schonwetter < tobias AT creativecommons.org > wrote: 



Yes, thanks for the update. Very helpful! And an exciting discussion it seems. 


My two cents, if I may - and please disagree or agree or add more on this list if you wish: 



The whatsapp group suggestion is a good one, although I had considered it in the past and didn’t go ahead because I (then) felt that whatsapp was not used widely enough (yet) by affiliates in Africa … and while used extensivley in some countries it is not used so much in others - for whatever reasons. Some network members - especially the tekkies among us - also did not like that whastapp did not encrypt their messaging but this was recently “fixed” I believe. So I hope that a sufficient number of affilates in Africa signs up to the group and actively monitors this (I will sign up now) - otherwise we may wish to look into alternatives such as telegram or even something like slack or an open alternative. 


I admit, I am a fan of the (actually pretty flexible) MoUs for various reasons (including creating some form of formalisation of the relationship and a shared understanding of expectations and responsibilities) but the roadmap system is broken imo. Nothing wrong though with creating an annual plan but certainly not through the current roadmap system (hence our first attempt this year to replace the roadmap with a simplified survey that focusses more on the really important stuff). Was there any discussion of what the alternatives would be? 


Any other comments from anybody on this list to the points raised during the discussions in Washington DC? 


Looking forward to more updates. 


Best, 


Tobias 




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On 18 May 2016, at 10:10 AM, aristarik < aristarik AT gmail.com > wrote: 



Thanks For the updates. 
Regards 
Aristarik Maro 







Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. 

-------- Original message -------- 
From: Abbas Mahmood < abbasjnr AT hotmail.com > 
Date: 18/05/2016 10:38 (GMT+03:00) 
To: " ccAfrica AT lists.ibiblio.org " < ccafrica AT lists.ibiblio.org > 
Subject: Re: [ccAfrica] CC global network strategy meeting - Kill it! - Fix it! - Add it! 


Thank you for the update. 


Abbas. 




Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 13:40:30 -0400 
From: simeon AT jamlab.co.ke 
To: ccAfrica AT lists.ibiblio.org 
Subject: [ccAfrica] CC global network strategy meeting - Kill it! - Fix it! - Add it! 

(*Kelsey forwarded the following email from the main cc-affiliate list last night but it didn't get to the mailing list.. I'm resending without the image but will share other images of the work we did - somehow - a little later. We're wrapping up in 3h so if you have any feedback for today's session please include quickly*) 



Hello CC Africa 


Simeon and I are inspired and excited after a fantastic first day at the CC global strategy meeting. You'll see the day one update below 


We would love to hear your feedback on the post and if you have anything you want us to bring to the meeting tomorrow 

To facilitate this and to help us all chat more We'll start a CC Africa Whatsapp group 


Please Whatsapp me at +27724385095 and I'll add you to the group 


sawubona 


Kelsey & Simeon 

---------- Forwarded message ---------- 
From: Paul Keller < pk AT kl.nl > 
Date: Monday, May 16, 2016 
Subject: [cc-affiliates] CC global network strategy meeting - Kill it! - Fix it! - Add it! 
To: CC Affiliates < cc-affiliates AT lists.ibiblio.org > 



Hi all, 
as you will (hopefully) know we are having the first CC global network strategy meeting in Washington D.C today and tomorrow. This is the first physical meeting of the network strategy group that was formed as a follow up od the discussions that we have had at the last day of last years summit in Seoul. The purpose of this meeting is to stake out a couple of options for the future of CC's global network that we can then investigate further within the strategy group and with the rest of the network. While there will be more comprehensive notes that will be circulated after the meeting we wanted to aslo give a quick informal update on what is being discussed here during he two days. This post is a quick little summary of what we have done today and hopefully someone else will follow up with a summary at the end of tomorrow. 


We spend the first half of the day doing a post-it heavy exercise mapping the current state of the affiliate network. Paul S and Kamiel (who are facilitating the meeting) walked us through a series of exercises focussed on identifying things that we know about our network (data - white post its in the picture below). This was followed up by an exercise aimed at identifying frustrations/negative feelings that we have (the red post-its) and another one focussing on positive feelings (the yellow ones). As you can the negative feelings outweighed the positive ones, which is probably recognizable for a most of us (and the reason why we are undertaking this process). We concluded the morning session by two more exercises, the first one focussed on identifying elements of the networks that we want to get rid of, that we would like to improve and that we would like to add (the kill-it, fix-it, add-it on the door). The last exercise collected and contrasted historic goals of the network with future goals (the multi colored post its). 

We kicked off the afternoon with a session in which we analyzed other network organisations to identify positive and negative traits of their organization models. This included the usual suspects (wikimedia, peer2peer foundation) organisations working on humanitarian en environmental issues and organisations advocating for entirely different causes that have interesting organizational models. 


We concluded the afternoon session with a open discussion in which we tried to better understand why our network seems to be caught up in a "us vs. them dynamic'. This was quite an intense discussion that scratched a number of open wounds (paid vs unpaid work, the inadequacy of our structural instruments (such as MoU and roadmaps) and the role of regional and global coordinators. 


While none of the discussion lead to anything very actionable yet (although if i was a betting man i would not bet on a long future life of either the MoU or the roadmaps) we hopefully laid the groundwork for some more results oriented discussions on day two. i think most if not all of us where very happy with the constructive and open nature of the discussions and to discover that there is more that unites us than that divides us (even though the red and the yellow post its might give another impression). so much for now.... 


Paul (on behalf of Alek, Carolina, Claudia ,Claudio, Delia, Scann, Kelsey, Kamil, Mari, Naeema , Paul S, Ryan, Simeon, Sohyuun) 
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