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Various perspectives on Copyright and mentions of Creative Commons on
this new site dedicated to professionals in the arts working with new
technology.

http://www.projectsetc.org/creating_great_content/comment_the_end_of_cop
yright_f.html
http://www.projectsetc.org/creating_great_content/intellectual_property_
issues_f.html
http://www.projectsetc.org/creating_great_content/intellectual_property_
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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Release the Music! London - 13/11/06 (Paul Harkins)
2. Re: Release the Music! London - 13/11/06 (Tim Cowlishaw)
3. Re: Release the Music! London - 13/11/06 (John Casey)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:13:37 -0000
From: "Paul Harkins" <paul AT extrayardmusic.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Cc-uk] Release the Music! London - 13/11/06
To: <cc-uk AT lists.ibiblio.org>, "Timothy Cowlishaw"
<timcowlishaw AT gmail.com>
Message-ID: <023901c708af$7b26ae20$01822952@PAUL>
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Hi Tim,

Have there been any reviews of this event and any word on availability
of an online video?

Some surprising and slightly worrying news taken from industry magazine,
Five Eight's daily bulletin:

A new consumer study conducted by the BPI/YouGov finds that 62% of
consumers feel the copyright period for sound recordings in the UK
should be extended from the current 50 years to 95 years (to bring it in
line with the US). For 18-29-year-olds, the level of support for a
copyright extension rises to 70%. Only 20% of the 2,034 people polled
were opposed to an extension in the copyright term while 18% were
unsure. The BPI is hoping that these findings will help the music
industry's case in the Gowers Review of intellectual property in the UK.
As we argued in the May issue of Five Eight, any changes in the
copyright term must be accompanied with a set of new provisions for both
recording artists and music consumers:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6141038.stm
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,,1945523,00.html

Thank goodness for the British Library!

Paul

Ian Tomlin School of Music | Napier University | Craighouse Road |
Edinburgh | EH10 5LG

Music & Media Dept | Perth College | Crieff Road | Perth | PH1 2NX
paul.harkins AT perth.uhi.ac.uk | www.uhi.ac.uk

Extra Yard Music | 81 1/M Dunnikier Road | Kirkcaldy | KY1 2QW
t: + 44 (0)1592 560521 | m: + 44 (0)7752 086309 | w:
www.extrayardmusic.co.uk

----- Original Message -----
From: Timothy Cowlishaw
To: cc-icommons AT lists.ibiblio.org ; UK FreeCulture Discuss List ;
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Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:56 AM
Subject: [Cc-uk] Release the Music! London - 13/11/06



The Open Rights Group is doing a free event at Conway Hall, London,
on the 13 November to examine
whether or not copyright term should be extended for sound recordings.
If you want to come, then you can sign up online:

http://releasethemusic.eventbrite.com

I'd be really grateful if you could forward this event info on to
whatever lists you may be on which might be relevant, or blog it if
you're inclined to.

Hope to see some of you there!


http://www.openrightsgroup.org

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Should the term of copyright protection on sound recordings stay at 50
years or be extended?

This question has been hanging in the air for the last couple of
years, with the music industry lobbying government for an extension on
the grounds that the royalties they earn from old recordings are
essential to bringing new acts to the stage and supporting ageing
musicians. They believe that copyright term on sound recordings should
be the same length as the copyright in the composition, which
currently stands at life plus 70 years.

On the other hand, copyright reformers argue that term should remain
the same in order to protect the public domain and to free the huge
number of old recordings which are no longer commercially viable and
therefore not being released by the record labels. They also argue
that there is a greater economic benefit to allowing works to pass
into the public domain after 50 years so that new works can be made
from them and new businesses that specialise in niche markets can
flourish.

This question of term extension, along with many others, is now being
considered by Andrew Gowers in his Review of Intellectual Property
which was commissioned by the Treasury and is due to report before the
end of the year.

The Open Rights Group believes that term extension is such an
important issue that it deserves focused and rigourous discussion, so
we've invited people from number of backgrounds to give us their
thoughts and opinions.

We would be delighted if you could join us - the event is free to all,
but places are limited so book now!

Schedule:

6.00pm - Registration.
6.30pm - Keynote by Professor Jonathan Zittrain, Chair in Internet
Governance and Regulation at Oxford University.
7.30pm - Panel Discussion, moderated by John Howkins, RSA & Adelphi
Charter; guests include Caroline Wilson, University of Southampton,
Faculty of Law; others TBC.
8.30pm - DJ set by The Chaps, playing a pre-1955 public domain set.
10.00pm - Close.

If you sign up, but find you are not able to come, please do let us
know so we can release your seat to someone else.
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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:21:10 +0000
From: "Tim Cowlishaw" <timcowlishaw AT gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Cc-uk] Release the Music! London - 13/11/06
To: "Paul Harkins" <paul AT extrayardmusic.co.uk>
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Hi Paul,

The video should be ready by next week, but in the meantime, there's a
sound recording of the event available here:

http://www.releasethemusic.org/2006/11/15/release-the-music-audio-record
ing-now-available/

I also saw that YouGov poll... although I think the question was very
misleading. If we had commissioned a poll with the question "do you
think that our nation's cultural heritage should be placed in jeopardy
in order to provide more income for a handful of already wealthy
musicians?", i think we would have seen a very different response
(although that would be equally as biased - impartiality is a difficult
thing to achieve in these situations). ;-)

Cheers!

Tim

On 11/15/06, Paul Harkins <paul AT extrayardmusic.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Have there been any reviews of this event and any word on availability

> of an online video?
>
> Some surprising and slightly worrying news taken from industry
> magazine, Five Eight's daily bulletin:
>
> A new consumer study conducted by the BPI/YouGov finds that 62% of
> consumers feel the copyright period for sound recordings in the UK
> should be extended from the current 50 years to 95 years (to bring it
> in line with the US). For 18-29-year-olds, the level of support for a
> copyright extension rises to 70%. Only 20% of the 2,034 people polled
> were opposed to an extension in the copyright term while 18% were
> unsure. The BPI is hoping that these findings will help the music
> industry's case in the Gowers Review of intellectual property in the
> UK. As we argued in the May issue of Five Eight, any changes in the
> copyright term must be accompanied with a set of new provisions for
both recording artists and music consumers:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6141038.stm
> http://observer.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,,1945523,00.html
>
> Thank goodness for the British Library!
>
> Paul
>
> Ian Tomlin School of Music | Napier University | Craighouse Road |
> Edinburgh
> | EH10 5LG
>
> Music & Media Dept | Perth College | Crieff Road | Perth | PH1 2NX
> paul.harkins AT perth.uhi.ac.uk | www.uhi.ac.uk
>
> Extra Yard Music | 81 1/M Dunnikier Road | Kirkcaldy | KY1 2QW
> t: + 44 (0)1592 560521 | m: + 44 (0)7752 086309 | w:
> www.extrayardmusic.co.uk
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Timothy Cowlishaw
> To: cc-icommons AT lists.ibiblio.org ; UK FreeCulture Discuss List ;
> Public discussion list ; cc-uk AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:56 AM
> Subject: [Cc-uk] Release the Music! London - 13/11/06
>
>
> The Open Rights Group is doing a free event at Conway Hall, London,
> on the 13 November to examine whether or not copyright term should be
> extended for sound recordings.
> If you want to come, then you can sign up online:
>
> http://releasethemusic.eventbrite.com
>
> I'd be really grateful if you could forward this event info on to
> whatever lists you may be on which might be relevant, or blog it if
> you're inclined to.
>
> Hope to see some of you there!
>
>
> http://www.openrightsgroup.org
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> -----------------------
> Should the term of copyright protection on sound recordings stay at 50

> years or be extended?
>
> This question has been hanging in the air for the last couple of
> years, with the music industry lobbying government for an extension on

> the grounds that the royalties they earn from old recordings are
> essential to bringing new acts to the stage and supporting ageing
> musicians. They believe that copyright term on sound recordings should

> be the same length as the copyright in the composition, which
> currently stands at life plus 70 years.
>
> On the other hand, copyright reformers argue that term should remain
> the same in order to protect the public domain and to free the huge
> number of old recordings which are no longer commercially viable and
> therefore not being released by the record labels. They also argue
> that there is a greater economic benefit to allowing works to pass
> into the public domain after 50 years so that new works can be made
> from them and new businesses that specialise in niche markets can
> flourish.
>
> This question of term extension, along with many others, is now being
> considered by Andrew Gowers in his Review of Intellectual Property
> which was commissioned by the Treasury and is due to report before the

> end of the year.
>
> The Open Rights Group believes that term extension is such an
> important issue that it deserves focused and rigourous discussion, so
> we've invited people from number of backgrounds to give us their
> thoughts and opinions.
>
> We would be delighted if you could join us - the event is free to all,

> but places are limited so book now!
>
> Schedule:
>
> 6.00pm - Registration.
> 6.30pm - Keynote by Professor Jonathan Zittrain, Chair in Internet
> Governance and Regulation at Oxford University.
> 7.30pm - Panel Discussion, moderated by John Howkins, RSA & Adelphi
> Charter; guests include Caroline Wilson, University of Southampton,
> Faculty of Law; others TBC.
> 8.30pm - DJ set by The Chaps, playing a pre-1955 public domain set.
> 10.00pm - Close.
>
> If you sign up, but find you are not able to come, please do let us
> know so we can release your seat to someone else.
> _______________________________________________
> Cc-uk mailing list
> Cc-uk AT lists.ibiblio.org
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-uk
>
>


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:00:40 +0000
From: "John Casey" <John.Casey AT uhi.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Cc-uk] Release the Music! London - 13/11/06
To: "Paul Harkins" <paul AT extrayardmusic.co.uk>, "Timothy Cowlishaw"
<timcowlishaw AT gmail.com>, <cc-uk AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <455B2B980200000F0001A3C1 AT gw8.uhi.ac.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hello All
I would treat any such findings with great care, the this industry (and
others) is employing public relations outfits to feed this stuff into
the media.

Best Wishes
John

John Casey
Learning Materials Manager
TrustDR JISC Project Manager
UHI Millennium Institute
Room 145, Perth College, Perth, PH1 2NX, Scotland UK

e-mail: john.casey AT uhi.ac.uk
Tel: 01738 877213
Mob: 07796930031
Fax:

>>> Paul Harkins <paul AT extrayardmusic.co.uk> 11/15/06 12:13 pm >>>
Hi Tim,

Have there been any reviews of this event and any word on availability
of an online video?

Some surprising and slightly worrying news taken from industry magazine,
Five Eight's daily bulletin:

A new consumer study conducted by the BPI/YouGov finds that 62% of
consumers feel the copyright period for sound recordings in the UK
should be extended from the current 50 years to 95 years (to bring it in
line with the US). For 18-29-year-olds, the level of support for a
copyright extension rises to 70%. Only 20% of the 2,034 people polled
were opposed to an extension in the copyright term while 18% were
unsure. The BPI is hoping that these findings will help the music
industry's case in the Gowers Review of intellectual property in the UK.
As we argued in the May issue of Five Eight, any changes in the
copyright term must be accompanied with a set of new provisions for both
recording artists and music consumers:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6141038.stm
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,,1945523,00.html

Thank goodness for the British Library!

Paul

Ian Tomlin School of Music | Napier University | Craighouse Road |
Edinburgh | EH10 5LG

Music & Media Dept | Perth College | Crieff Road | Perth | PH1 2NX
paul.harkins AT perth.uhi.ac.uk | www.uhi.ac.uk

Extra Yard Music | 81 1/M Dunnikier Road | Kirkcaldy | KY1 2QW
t: + 44 (0)1592 560521 | m: + 44 (0)7752 086309 | w:
www.extrayardmusic.co.uk

----- Original Message -----
From: Timothy Cowlishaw
To: cc-icommons AT lists.ibiblio.org ; UK FreeCulture Discuss List ; Public
discussion list ; cc-uk AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:56 AM
Subject: [Cc-uk] Release the Music! London - 13/11/06


The Open Rights Group is doing a free event at Conway Hall, London, on
the 13 November to examine whether or not copyright term should be
extended for sound recordings.
If you want to come, then you can sign up online:

http://releasethemusic.eventbrite.com

I'd be really grateful if you could forward this event info on to
whatever lists you may be on which might be relevant, or blog it if
you're inclined to.

Hope to see some of you there!


http://www.openrightsgroup.org
------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------
Should the term of copyright protection on sound recordings stay at 50
years or be extended?

This question has been hanging in the air for the last couple of years,
with the music industry lobbying government for an extension on the
grounds that the royalties they earn from old recordings are essential
to bringing new acts to the stage and supporting ageing musicians. They
believe that copyright term on sound recordings should be the same
length as the copyright in the composition, which currently stands at
life plus 70 years.

On the other hand, copyright reformers argue that term should remain the
same in order to protect the public domain and to free the huge number
of old recordings which are no longer commercially viable and therefore
not being released by the record labels. They also argue that there is a
greater economic benefit to allowing works to pass into the public
domain after 50 years so that new works can be made from them and new
businesses that specialise in niche markets can flourish.

This question of term extension, along with many others, is now being
considered by Andrew Gowers in his Review of Intellectual Property which
was commissioned by the Treasury and is due to report before the end of
the year.

The Open Rights Group believes that term extension is such an important
issue that it deserves focused and rigourous discussion, so we've
invited people from number of backgrounds to give us their thoughts and
opinions.

We would be delighted if you could join us - the event is free to all,
but places are limited so book now!

Schedule:

6.00pm - Registration.
6.30pm - Keynote by Professor Jonathan Zittrain, Chair in Internet
Governance and Regulation at Oxford University.
7.30pm - Panel Discussion, moderated by John Howkins, RSA & Adelphi
Charter; guests include Caroline Wilson, University of Southampton,
Faculty of Law; others TBC.
8.30pm - DJ set by The Chaps, playing a pre-1955 public domain set.
10.00pm - Close.

If you sign up, but find you are not able to come, please do let us know
so we can release your seat to someone else.
_______________________________________________
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