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  • From: Neil Leyton <nleyton AT gmail.com>
  • To: Tom Chance <tom AT acrewoods.net>
  • Cc: cc-uk AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Cc-uk] Copyleft Hits a Snag - Lessig
  • Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:41:34 +0000

Still, the announcement of a CC:Lab should benefit everyone involved in the usage of CC licences. Sounds good to me!

Best,
Neil

On 12/21/05, Tom Chance <tom AT acrewoods.net> wrote:
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 10:08, David Hirst .com wrote:
> An interesting and relevant piece about the incompatibilities across
> licences.
>
> http://www.technologyreview.com/InfoTech/wtr_16073,300,p1.html?trk=nl

It's a shame the article doesn't address the incompatibilities between CC
licenses, which I think is even more worrying. It's made worse by the fact
that many people think it's sufficient to say that they use "a CC license".
It's something I've covered in a couple of articles from practical
experience:
http://tom.acrewoods.net/writing/remixculture
http://tom.acrewoods.net/writing/creativecommonsintro

As David Berry has pointed out, CC isn't a commons, it's a collection of
compartmentalised private spaces with a certain level of public access. It's
building up parallel worlds of people who use NC-SA licenses, people who use
sampling licenses, people who think it's acceptable to use the ND clause, and
people who use the most copyleft BY-SA licenses.

Could that not be even more damaging to the copyleft movement than CC only
pushing the more radical BY-SA license with no option for NC? Or (god forbid)
only pushing the BY-NC-SA option. Don't even get me started on ND... In
trying to liberate people from legal complexities so they can get on with
creating, CC is just entangling people in a new layer of complexity that many
are likely to completely ignore (and as I discuss in the first article above,
many already do so).


Presumably some of the arguments against just merging BY-SA and BY-NC-SA also
work against effectively merging the FDL and BY-SA?

Regards,
Tom

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