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[David M.Berry <d.berry AT sussex.ac.uk>]

Yes, but have you hear Fran Nevrlka, the head of the PPL talk about the 
Creative Commons? Anarchists, academics and nihilists?



On 25 Apr 2005, at 21:01, Neil Leyton wrote:

> It is important to note, on this PRS topic, that MANY artists and
> labels of rising influence are becoming aware of the issue and, should
> PRS not change, it may find itself becoming increasingly irrelevant,
> as new indie-minded and CC-aware rights societies begin to emerge,
> first centered around internet licensing, and then moving into the FW
> radio domain which the existing PRO's have ruled with a mafia-like
> grip for way too long already.
>
> Btw, this issue has NOT been a problem in Canada, as SOCAN rightfully
> differentiates between commercial vs. non-commercial uses, and no red
> flags have gone up around CC usage... pointing the way for possible
> PRS/PPL positive adaptation here...
>
> N.
>
> On 4/25/05, Dr Tim Brookes <T.Brookes AT surrey.ac.uk> wrote:
> > On 25 Apr 2005, at 17:00, cc-uk-request AT lists.ibiblio.org wrote:
> > > One of the thorny 'yes buts...' I am hearing a lot in regard to CC is
> > > "what happens if young creators license their early work under CC and
> > > then rue the day forever more?"
> >
> > For musical works, as far as I can see, the major problem here is the
> > UK collection agencies. If you have ever licensed any of your works
> > under CC then you can never join PRS, since they require exclusive
> > rights to all your works - past and future - and you can not grant
> > exclusive rights on a work you've already CC-licensed.  If you're not
> > in PRS when you're writing hit after hit, you'll find it almost
> > impossible to get any performance royalties from your multitudinous
> > radio broadcasts, TV broadcasts, film showings, public performances,
> > iTunes downloads, etc...  You can make money from selling CDs, and 
> > from
> > granting permission for use of your tracks in films, adverts, etc, but
> > you won't get performance royalties.
> >
> > It's PRS that need to change - not CC - but until they do I think 
> > you'd
> > have to be very sure that you never want any performance royalties
> > before you CC-license anything.  This is a tremendous shame and I very
> > much hope PRS (and MCPS and PPL) can be persuaded to grant membership
> > in exchange for exclusive (or even non-exclusive) rights on commercial
> > use only. Then a non-com CC licence would not preclude later royalty
> > income.
> >
> > Tim.
> >
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