Development of the Creative Commons Sampling license (or license option)

[mark / negativland <markhosler AT charter.net>]

At 3:55 PM -0700 9/16/03, Don Joyce wrote:
> Cut & Paste License is the best so far - I agree completely with the 
> act-centric simplicity and common knowledge of the term. Now 
> extending to all computer users who may or may not do it too.
> Sounds more pro-active, less restrictive too - A license to cut and paste.
>
> This should be the one to beat, thanks Lisa!
> DJ


 I guess I did not care for it much when I first saw it. Doesn't seem 
to suggest transforming or altering enough. But Chris's reasons for 
why it is good are all excellent and quite correct!  And I do like 
the fact that its a term many computer users  know ( or, do they? is 
it only a MAC term? I am PC illiterate).

And....it's cute!.

I am still not clear on how much addditonal  easily accessible info 
is going to be attached to the license to go into more depth about 
all that  it is and is not for, philisophical/cultrual/ethical 
reasons why we would encourgae artists to adopt this particular 
license, etc. ( all stuff we discussed at some point  before we went 
public with this list) ) The month  of CC  silence has made a lot of 
things rather fuzzy in my brain.....

mark

> > I like 'cut and paste' too.  Not just to the point, also laden with 
> > nice connotations.
> >
> > Media-format-neutral.  Implies taking a section and not the whole. 
> > De-mystifies the creative process.  Concrete.  Down-to-earth. 
> > Hearkens back to analog tape splicing, yet emphasizes the 
> > computer-driven urgency of the initiative.  Grounded in common 
> > experience, not just art-world or media-world or law-world lingo.
> >
> >         -- Chris G.
> >
> > > "cut and paste" license seems simple and to the point.
> > >
> > > lisa
> > >
> > >
> > > On Monday, September 15, 2003, at 11:51  AM, Cory Doctorow wrote:
> > >
> > > > cut-and-paste license works for me, too
> > > > On Monday, September 15, 2003, at 11:18  AM, Sarah Brown wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 08:48:18AM -0700, mark / negativland wrote:
> > > > > >    The  NY times had a lot of stories the other day about file 
> > > > > > sharing and
> > > > > >    copying......here's a  good one about the shifting 
> > > > > > media/cultural sea our
> > > > > >    new  license will be swimming in.......
> > > > > >    mark
> > > > > >    September 14, 2003
> > > > > >    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/14/fashion/14COPY.html
> > > > > >    Beyond File-Sharing, a Nation of Copiers
> > > > > >    By JOHN LELAND
> > > > >
> > > > > >    "Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life.") But together 
> > > > > > they suggest a
> > > > > >    broad relationship between new technology and a value system 
> > > > > > that seems
> > > > > >    shaped to it. In a nation that flaunts its capacities to produce and
> > > > > >    consume, much of the culture's heat now lies with the ability to cut,
> > > > > >    paste, clip, sample, quote, recycle, customize and recirculate. It is
> > > > >
> > > > > Re: the name of the sampling licence. I'm very fond of:
> > > > >
> > > > > The "cut, paste, clip, sample, quote, recycle, customize and
> > > > > recirculate" Licence.
> > > > >
> > > > > Or,
> > > > >
> > > > > The Give and Take Licence for Use in Sampling and Collage.
> > > > >
> > > > > But my best guess is that either of these names, or any other name we
> > > > > chose, would inevitably get reduced to
> > > > >
> > > > > "The Sampling Licence",
> > > > >
> > > > > which would be perfectly adequate.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > so that's my vote,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sarah
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