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Re: [cc-sampling] Nation of Copiers, or, what to name the license?
- From: Lisa Rein <lisarein AT finetuning.com>
- To: "Kirkman, Catherine" <CKirkman AT wsgr.com>
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- Subject: Re: [cc-sampling] Nation of Copiers, or, what to name the license?
- Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:58:07 -0700
Hi Catherine,
I would love it if you could clarify the difference between what this license allows and what a "full derivative" license would allow. It seems to me that if you include a sample of a song, for instance, in another song, repeating it frequently. It *is* a derivative work.
It was my understanding that these lines are not crystal clear. (re: between partial derivative and full derivatives, or whatever) -- I would appreaciate any clarification you could provide in this regard.
thanks!!
lisa
On Monday, September 15, 2003, at 02:59 PM, Kirkman, Catherine wrote:
I agree with you that they are ambiguous, which is why I liked "sampling" best.
With creative/artistic there may be connotations of the artistic techniques that we have in mind for this license, but again as a lawyer I will let the creative folks decide on what connotations resonate (or not). My main concern is actually that the name not imply a full derivative right license.
-----Original Message-----
From: Cory Doctorow [mailto:doctorow AT craphound.com]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 2:00 PM
To: Kirkman, Catherine
Cc: Glenn Otis Brown; cc-sampling AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [cc-sampling] Nation of Copiers, or, what to name the
license?
"creative re-use" and "artistic re-use" are ambiguous, because all of
the existing licenses ALSO permit creative and artistic reuse. IOW,
"Here is the 'Creative Re-Use License" and here is the
"Attrib-Derivs-Commercial" license. How do they differ?"
For this reason I also like "creative re-use" or "artistic re-use", as
to me these are suggestive of sampling and the other artistic
techniques that are contemplated.
Cathy
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RE: [cc-sampling] Nation of Copiers, or, what to name the license?,
Kirkman, Catherine, 09/15/2003
- RE: [cc-sampling] Nation of Copiers, or, what to name the license?, Chris Grigg, 09/15/2003
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- [cc-sampling] Nation of Copiers, or, what to name the license?, Cory Doctorow, 09/15/2003
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RE: [cc-sampling] Nation of Copiers, or, what to name the license?,
Kirkman, Catherine, 09/15/2003
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Re: [cc-sampling] Nation of Copiers, or, what to name the license?,
Lisa Rein, 09/15/2003
- Re: [cc-sampling] Nation of Copiers, or, what to name the license?, Glenn Otis Brown, 09/15/2003
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Re: [cc-sampling] Nation of Copiers, or, what to name the license?,
Lisa Rein, 09/15/2003
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RE: [cc-sampling] Nation of Copiers, or, what to name the license?,
Kirkman, Catherine, 09/15/2003
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[cc-sampling] More name,
Chris Grigg, 09/15/2003
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Re: [cc-sampling] More name,
Lisa Rein, 09/15/2003
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Re: [cc-sampling] More name,
Chris Grigg, 09/16/2003
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Re: [cc-sampling] More name,
Lisa Rein, 09/16/2003
- Re: [cc-sampling] More name, mark / negativland, 09/16/2003
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Re: [cc-sampling] More name,
Kevin Marks, 09/16/2003
- Re: [cc-sampling] More name, Kasper Souren, 09/16/2003
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Re: [cc-sampling] More name,
Lisa Rein, 09/16/2003
- Re: [cc-sampling] More name, Kasper Souren, 09/16/2003
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Re: [cc-sampling] More name,
Chris Grigg, 09/16/2003
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Re: [cc-sampling] More name,
Lisa Rein, 09/15/2003
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[cc-sampling] More name,
Chris Grigg, 09/15/2003
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