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- From: Don Joyce <dj AT webbnet.com>
- To: creative commons license list <cc-sampling AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [cc-sampling] artistic credit?
- Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 03:41:04 -0700
Title: Re: [cc-sampling] artistic credit?
John,
To some of us who sample, it is a matter of artistic integrity to
name our sources for many reasons, no matter how small the fragment
(within reason, there is a hassle line at which work on attribution
stops) but certainly in the case of large swipes, it's only
polite...
Mainly, it's much better for collage art, as a widespread
practice and process of amalgamation, to stay honest and transparent
about its own construction in my opinion. I would like to see
the license reflect this larger, non-individualistic view of this
nothing-to-hide art form by requiring simple attribution, as an
etiquette the art espouses. If one doesn't want to for any reason,
don't. There wont really be any knocks on their doors for breaching
etiquette. But, on the other hand, if any free sample licensed artist
is reused and unnamed, he could invoke his license and take the
sampler to court and force them to attribute him as a source in
their work, but nothing else. None of that "damages" stuff,
please. But I think this license might, like a lot of licenses do,
espouse etiquette.
Anthologies and compilations are not collages or partial uses by
definition. It may be one chapter from a book in the anthology, or one
song from an album on the compilation, but both are
untransformed, and intact as created. The stated guidelines for
free re-use mention "partial" and "transformed" as
the defining factors for free re-use. In the unique case of collage,
which can and has involved both large and small chunks of something
else, and gone on to transform these chunks themselves to degrees
ranging from totally to not at all, we devised the partial/transformed
duality to apply to distinguishing collage from other partial uses
like anthologies/compilations. This duality is judged in collaged work
as a balance of factors present, similar to the way Fair Use is
legally determined. A song on a compilation may be a "partial"
usage (if one is convinced the concept album it comes from is the
"whole,") but it is, as a track, untransformed on the
compilation. In collage arts, if you use a "whole," it must
be transformed to constitute anything new or different from the
original intent of the work and the artist who made it (the
transmitting goal of an anthology!), however if you use a fragment in
collage, it need not necessarily be transformed at all. When a
conceivable "whole" is incorporated into a collaged work, it
must be seen to be trasnsformed because it has not automatically met
the "partial" requirement. If something obviously meets the
"partial" requirement, it need not "transform" the
source fragments because fragmentation is transforming.
All in all, the purpose of sampling/collage is to
transform it's contents via a new context altogether.
Anthologies and compilations have an opposite intent (just as
bootleggers and counterfeiters have an opposite intent) and that is to
represent its contents as unchanged from the original, they are
marketing the appeal of the unmanipulated original in a new context
that contains nothing new. There could be borderline anthology
or compilation concepts also intending to be reactive or
creative with the work they contain, thus confusing this normally easy
identification between art and reproduction, and those are the cases
that may end up in court, where this dual factor balance in the
license will be argued both ways enthusiastically, I'm sure.
Are we supposed to think of things that will eliminate all future
court cases? Or something that works pretty well to make this
difference in re-use clear in the vast majority of real examples as we
know them.
Is it a "transformed and/or partial re-use?" is the
whole answer in a nutshell with a question mark.
Anthology/compilation editors generally work hard to not
transform the various materials they're re-presenting. This is always
pretty obvious in the usual proof of pudding ways. Free re-use in
support of new art doesn't really apply here.
Collagists/samplers do the opposite, they're out to make new art,
are intent on transforming their found content, so it
does.
If an anthology editor claims to be an artist making art so he
can use some stuff with a free re-use license on it for nothing, we
can ask the judge about that if necessary. No different than
borderline fair use claims and judgements now. Court wise, given our
stated defining factors for free re-use, I think such disputes will be
much easier to judge than most fair use cases are now.
DJ
Hi,
I've just been read the draft license and i think it is both well worded and
highly practical. One issue that is not acknowledged in the draft - or in
the discussion - is the question of crediting original work. I can't decide
whether I think this should be a requirement of all sampling, and certainly
if someone is using many sources it could be a hassle, but there are
certainly cases when I think it should be required, i.e. when a substantial
portion of the original work is used as a substantial and identifiable
portion of the authentically new work. It seems fair that the creator of the
sampled work should benefit from being recognized as a key contributor to
the audience's artistic enjoyment even if he/she does not ask a licensing
fee.
Another question I have is based on the following scenario: someone uses a
chapter of one of my books as a chapter in an anthology, and argues that the
anthology is a collage and therefore represents fair use rather than a
subversion of the need to license my writing for their book. The same
example could hold true for a song off an album included in a mixtape that
is undoubtedly a collage but which adds nothing new to the individual songs.
How would these cases be judged?
Cheers,
John Sobol
Digitopia Blues - Race, Technology and the American Voice
Banff Centre Press, 2002
john AT globalhood.net
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[cc-sampling] artistic credit?,
john, 05/30/2003
- Re: [cc-sampling] artistic credit?, Glenn Otis Brown, 05/30/2003
- Re: [cc-sampling] artistic credit?, Glenn Otis Brown, 05/30/2003
- Re: [cc-sampling] artistic credit?, Don Joyce, 05/31/2003
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