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  • From: "Glenn Otis Brown" <glenn AT creativecommons.org>
  • To: john AT dx.org, cc-sampling AT lists.ibiblio.org
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  • Subject: Re: [cc-sampling] artistic credit?
  • Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 10:11:15 -0800


> Another question I have is based on the following scenario: someone uses
> a
> chapter of one of my books as a chapter in an anthology, and argues that
> the
> anthology is a collage and therefore represents fair use rather than a
> subversion of the need to license my writing for their book. The same
> example could hold true for a song off an album included in a mixtape
> that
> is undoubtedly a collage but which adds nothing new to the individual
> songs.
> How would these cases be judged?

Under our current language the new use must be "highly transformative of
the original," which would seem to disqualify a simple anthology or
compilation. Of course you can imagine an arguably hard case at the
extreme -- putting a children's song in the middle of a mix tape of hours
of hardcore metal would certainly change _something_ about how the
children's song sounded -- but there will always be hard cases.

Glenn











On Fri, 30 May 2003 12:23:10 -0400, "john" <john AT dx.org> said:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've just been read the draft license and i think it is both well worded
> and
> highly practical. One issue that is not acknowledged in the draft - or
> in
> the discussion - is the question of crediting original work. I can't
> decide
> whether I think this should be a requirement of all sampling, and
> certainly
> if someone is using many sources it could be a hassle, but there are
> certainly cases when I think it should be required, i.e. when a
> substantial
> portion of the original work is used as a substantial and identifiable
> portion of the authentically new work. It seems fair that the creator of
> the
> sampled work should benefit from being recognized as a key contributor to
> the audience's artistic enjoyment even if he/she does not ask a licensing
> fee.
>
> Another question I have is based on the following scenario: someone uses
> a
> chapter of one of my books as a chapter in an anthology, and argues that
> the
> anthology is a collage and therefore represents fair use rather than a
> subversion of the need to license my writing for their book. The same
> example could hold true for a song off an album included in a mixtape
> that
> is undoubtedly a collage but which adds nothing new to the individual
> songs.
> How would these cases be judged?
>
> Cheers,
> John Sobol
>
> Digitopia Blues - Race, Technology and the American Voice
> Banff Centre Press, 2002
>
> john AT globalhood.net
>
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Glenn Otis Brown
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Creative Commons
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