Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand discussion

[Jane Hornibrook <janehornibrook AT gmail.com>]

Hi Richard and Wayne

"
 I would be very interested in talking to others at other Universities 
(or tertiary providers more generally, though our cultures probably 
present different challenges) about what they are doing or hope to do in
 this context.  If we could develop a sense of
 common principles or purpose as a sector, we would present a much more 
convincing and coherent argument for widespread adoption of open 
practices in academia."

Yes, this is so important.

"Ako is a strategic partner of the OER Foundation -- perhaps our National Centre for Excellence in Tertiary teaching is a useful platform to convene a national sector-wide discussion on open policies in support of teaching and research. I suggest this because Ako spans the university and institutes of technology rather than having the two sectors doing their own thing. 

Shouldn't we be thinking of convening a national 
forum or Hui to facilitate sector wide discussion on open policies in 
education including, for instance Ako, CCANZ, NZGOAL, NZQA, the NZVCC 
Copyright sub committee, the Polytechnic equivalent, CONZUL, Ministry of
 Education, TEC, OER Foundation etc."

A good way to think about moving forward. I think it's time CC NZ touched base again with Ako regardless, and I'd be very keen to discuss these sorts of goals together with them and OER Foundation. 

This isn't a suggestion of how a focused forum could be developed, but InternetNZ have just announced their intention to run a nationwide NetHui again in mid-2012. A well planned call for dialogue there, along with Open Access Week 2012, could be key events to bring representatives together on this issue. 

Thanks hugely
Jane

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  1. Re: 4.0 licences and Creative Commons NZ in 2012 (Richard White)
  2. Re: 4.0 licences and Creative Commons NZ in 2012
     (Wayne Mackintosh)


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From: Richard White <richard.white AT otago.ac.nz>
To: Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand discussion <cc-nz AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Cc: 
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 02:29:48 +0000
Subject: Re: [Cc-nz] 4.0 licences and Creative Commons NZ in 2012

Hi Jane (and all)

 

I’d like to make some comments in relation to the Roadmap, with particular reference to the tertiary education sector. 

 

As NZGOAL was released (and I also followed streamed discussions at NetHui about some of the open access developments in the public sector), I was left to look on with envy, since tertiary institutions were specifically excluded from NZGOAL, probably for good reason (biting off more than you can chew, I expect).  But this was very disappointing.

 

At Otago we’re trying to harness some of the grass roots enthusiasm for open access principles and transfer that energy to a more senior, strategic level.  I would be very interested in talking to others at other Universities (or tertiary providers more generally, though our cultures probably present different challenges) about what they are doing or hope to do in this context.  If we could develop a sense of common principles or purpose as a sector, we would present a much more convincing and coherent argument for widespread adoption of open practices in academia.

 

The NZVCC does have a copyright sub-committee (which I have attended) but that group is largely concerned with compliance, I would suggest – and therefore not the right forum in which to advance the kinds of things I’m talking about.

 

Could there be a place for Creative Commons to help facilitate these sorts of discussions?

 

I’d welcome thoughts from anyone else.  For the record, these are purely my own thoughts, in my role as Copyright Officer, and should not be taken as any kind of official view from the University of Otago!

 

Regards
Richard

 

Richard White | University Copyright Officer

Office of the Registrar & Secretary to Council

c/- Divisional Office | Division of Health Sciences | University of Otago | Dunedin | New Zealand

+64 (0)3 479 4877 | richard.white AT otago.ac.nz | rkawhite on Twitter

 

Resource: Copyright info for staff & students

 

 

 

From: cc-nz-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:cc-nz-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Jane Hornibrook
Sent: Monday, 12 December 2011 4:53 p.m.
To: cc-nz
Subject: [Cc-nz] 4.0 licences and Creative Commons NZ in 2012

 

Hi everyone

The CC global network and community have been invited to contribute to the process of developing the 4.0 licences. All the relevant information has been set out in this blog post: http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/30676

The most current version of the CC licence suite is 3.0, with the New Zealand ported versions of the international licences at 3.0 also.

The Creative Commons Aotearoa project and its legal team along with key NZGOAL people (nzgoal.info) will be staying involved in these conversations. They were initiated at the 2011 Global Summit where New Zealand was represented. Creative Commons warmly welcome everyone with proposals and commentary to contribute. The best forum for this is the international licence discussion list: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-licenses, but you can also get in touch with me directly.

Secondly, our NZ project's Roadmap looking forward into 2012 has been updated here: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/New_Zealand

You'll see that we have a strong focus on public sector information, the education sector, and institution-wide take up of the licences in New Zealand. I've had some great suggestions coming through directly about how we can support you in building the commons next year already, and we welcome much much more! There are plenty of ways help us get the best possible Roadmap. Feel free to give feedback here or off-list, you can also tweet the project at @cc_aotearoa or even leave your thoughts on the Roadmap wiki discussion section.

Many thanks.

Jane
(Public Lead, Creative Commons Aotearoa)

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From: Wayne Mackintosh <wayne AT oerfoundation.org>
To: Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand discussion <cc-nz AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Cc: 
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:06:59 +1300
Subject: Re: [Cc-nz] 4.0 licences and Creative Commons NZ in 2012
Richard,

The OER Foundation would be very interested in these discussions, particularly in the light of the international OER university initiative. There are 5 founding anchor partners from the New Zealand post-secondary sector. These are institutions who have agreed to accredit OER learning for courses under the OERu initiative.

Ako is a strategic partner of the OER Foundation -- perhaps our National Centre for Excellence in Tertiary teaching is a useful platform to convene a national sector-wide discussion on open policies in support of teaching and research. I suggest this because Ako spans the university and institutes of technology rather than having the two sectors doing their own thing. 

Shouldn't we be thinking of convening a national forum or Hui to facilitate sector wide discussion on open policies in education including, for instance Ako, CCANZ, NZGOAL, NZQA, the NZVCC Copyright sub committee, the Polytechnic equivalent, CONZUL, Ministry of Education, TEC, OER Foundation etc.   

The OER Foundation is happy to work with anyone interested in forwarding these strategic objectives -- its our core mission. 

Wayne

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Richard White <richard.white AT otago.ac.nz> wrote:

Hi Jane (and all)

 

I’d like to make some comments in relation to the Roadmap, with particular reference to the tertiary education sector. 

 

As NZGOAL was released (and I also followed streamed discussions at NetHui about some of the open access developments in the public sector), I was left to look on with envy, since tertiary institutions were specifically excluded from NZGOAL, probably for good reason (biting off more than you can chew, I expect).  But this was very disappointing.

 

At Otago we’re trying to harness some of the grass roots enthusiasm for open access principles and transfer that energy to a more senior, strategic level.  I would be very interested in talking to others at other Universities (or tertiary providers more generally, though our cultures probably present different challenges) about what they are doing or hope to do in this context.  If we could develop a sense of common principles or purpose as a sector, we would present a much more convincing and coherent argument for widespread adoption of open practices in academia.

 

The NZVCC does have a copyright sub-committee (which I have attended) but that group is largely concerned with compliance, I would suggest – and therefore not the right forum in which to advance the kinds of things I’m talking about.

 

Could there be a place for Creative Commons to help facilitate these sorts of discussions?

 

I’d welcome thoughts from anyone else.  For the record, these are purely my own thoughts, in my role as Copyright Officer, and should not be taken as any kind of official view from the University of Otago!

 

Regards
Richard

 

Richard White | University Copyright Officer

Office of the Registrar & Secretary to Council

c/- Divisional Office | Division of Health Sciences | University of Otago | Dunedin | New Zealand

+64 (0)3 479 4877 | richard.white AT otago.ac.nz | rkawhite on Twitter

 

Resource: Copyright info for staff & students

 

 

 

From: cc-nz-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:cc-nz-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Jane Hornibrook
Sent: Monday, 12 December 2011 4:53 p.m.
To: cc-nz
Subject: [Cc-nz] 4.0 licences and Creative Commons NZ in 2012

 

Hi everyone

The CC global network and community have been invited to contribute to the process of developing the 4.0 licences. All the relevant information has been set out in this blog post: http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/30676

The most current version of the CC licence suite is 3.0, with the New Zealand ported versions of the international licences at 3.0 also.

The Creative Commons Aotearoa project and its legal team along with key NZGOAL people (nzgoal.info) will be staying involved in these conversations. They were initiated at the 2011 Global Summit where New Zealand was represented. Creative Commons warmly welcome everyone with proposals and commentary to contribute. The best forum for this is the international licence discussion list: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-licenses, but you can also get in touch with me directly.

Secondly, our NZ project's Roadmap looking forward into 2012 has been updated here: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/New_Zealand

You'll see that we have a strong focus on public sector information, the education sector, and institution-wide take up of the licences in New Zealand. I've had some great suggestions coming through directly about how we can support you in building the commons next year already, and we welcome much much more! There are plenty of ways help us get the best possible Roadmap. Feel free to give feedback here or off-list, you can also tweet the project at @cc_aotearoa or even leave your thoughts on the Roadmap wiki discussion section.

Many thanks.

Jane
(Public Lead, Creative Commons Aotearoa)

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