discussion of the Creative Commons Metadata work

[Mike Linksvayer <ml AT creativecommons.org>]

Hi. cc-metadata (cc'd) might be a better place to work out the technical 
details.  Please look at extending existing work, e.g., "packaged media 
files" which are really just .zips with some added information, as is 
your proposal, see 
http://www.limewire.org/nightly/javadocs/com/limegroup/gnutella/gui/PackagedMediaFileLauncher.html 
for example.

I'll probably have more comments later this week.

Thanks,
Mike

David wrote:
> I think it would make a lot of sense for people on this list to draw up 
> a 'standard' for remixing work. We are Loca Records would be very happy 
> to release to the standard.
>
> In fact we should try to make it platform independent and 
> non-proprietary. It only needs to set out the general framework (i.e. 
> format etc) and some rules in a meta-data. For instance, maybe an XML 
> document that tells you roughly the tracknames, contents and panning, 
> volume etc. If we could then get some tools written that would translate 
> this into say MIDI, Logic, Pro-tools, Acid or whatever format to read in 
> to your app without all the messing about it would be great. I'm not an 
> expert on all this but here is a rough draft.
>
> So to kick start I propose:
>
>
> *LIBRE MUSIC FORMAT (LMF) Draft Proposal
> =====================================
> *
> lmf_track.zip: Zipped contents of LMF song
>
> *Contents of ZIP (every file would contain this basic information)*
>
> Basic_mix.xml: XML File Metadatafile. Name of song, songwriters, 
> copyleft license type (e.g. CC-BY-SA), rules for fitting track together 
> (e.g. tracknames, files, volumes, panning, suggesting effects, samples 
> etc).
> License.html: License text where appropriate. e.g. GPL
> Readme.txt General info in addition. Name of song, songwriters, copyleft 
> license type
> Midi.mid midi file containing arrangement
>
> samples Samples folder holding relevant samples for track (either 
> mp3/ogg/aiff/wav)
>
> audio Audio folder containing .mp3/.ogg or .flac files. Titled: 
> track1.mp3, track2.mp3 etc
>
> artwork Artwork folder where appropriate containing JPEG/PNG/GIFs
>
> etc Folder for extra bits that you want to share. e.g. unused audio, 
> finished mixes as mp3, arrangements in particular formats.
>
>
> *APPs
> ====
> *
> We would need an ability to translate to and from the format for 
> proprietary software (as most of us unfortunately have to use it) to get 
> the ball rolling. But it would mean that we as musicians could start to 
> share work more easily. Be great if someone open-sourced an app to do 
> this as it might help others to write one that is useful for them. 
> Naturally there would be some simplification as you move to the 
> non-proprietary format, but that should be fine as it is to assist 
> sharing and remixes and save having to create the documents by hand 
> every time. At least this way you would know straightaway where to find 
> the info, files and so on and it would be in one simple location.
>
> LMF -> Logic
> Logic -> LMF
>
> etc
>
>
> -- END --
>
> Cheers
>
> David
>
> http://www.locarecords.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 19 Apr 2005, at 17:11, HeavyConfetti wrote:
>
>     I'm glad to see brother Trent being so charitable, but why couldn't
>     he simply do what other
>     artists have done: provide a compressed archive including all the
>     tracks in a platform independent
>     format (e.g., .mp3, .ogg, or even *gasp* .flac). Then let the
>     remixer use the software/OS of
>     his/her choice. I could even use .aiff, since it can be used on
>     either the mac or pc. Not sure
>     about the linux world...
>
>     I am a PC user and have friends who have GarageBand so I can get
>     with them and have them spit out
>     the tracks in a format I can use, but I think it would be a good
>     practice in general for "artists"
>     to post tracks for public manipulation in a general rather than
>     proprietary format.
>
>
>
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