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  • From: Mike Linksvayer <ml AT creativecommons.org>
  • To: Edd Dumbill <edd AT usefulinc.com>, cc-metadata <cc-metadata AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Cc: Dan Brickley <danbri AT w3.org>
  • Subject: Re: DOAP
  • Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:37:41 -0700

Edd Dumbill wrote:
My aim has been to make the terms that the project needs, and then to
use the RDF schema to relate them to existing terms. I've been around
the houses with this once before on RSS 1.0, and it ended up in a bit of
a confusing mix. This time I need the lowest possible barrier to
adoption. Those that care about the RDF-ness of it are happy using
schemas.

Makes sense.

I will be endeavouring as much as I can to make doap:license subproperty
of cc:license. I don't see any reason why I shouldn't add this to the
DOAP schema.

That's what I'd want.

As to where the appropriateness of DC reuse lies, while on the face of
it this would seem to be in many places, unfortunately Dublin Core has
some problems in the looseness of the definition of its terms (e.g.
range of dc:creator), which cause confusion. At least to me.

I've heard that explanation before, I'm being a jerk and grousing. My preference would be for fuzziness over lack of interoperability. I find it telling that this question from <http://rdfweb.org/topic/UsingDublinCoreCreator> goes unanswered:

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If we do this, we should be able to infer that 'N' is the dc:creator of 'D' wherever we see markup to the effect that 'D' has a foaf:maker of 'M' and that 'M' has a foaf:name of 'N'.

?D dc:creator ?N .
implied by
?D foaf:maker ?M .
?M foaf:name ?N

(hmm, how to write this in proper machine-processable N3?)
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If RDF applications can't deal with unexpected compositions they may as well just skip RDF and use XML and hardcoded schemas. Ok, maybe not -- I know there's a difference between the benefits of mixing vocabularies and the downside of using loosely-defined vocabularies. As I said, I'm just grousing.

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Mike Linksvayer
http://creativecommons.org/learn/aboutus/people#21




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