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  • From: Andres Guadamuz <anduril13 AT gmail.com>
  • To: cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] When will the BY-SA 4.0 draft be out?
  • Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 16:26:31 -0600

I've had experience porting CC licences in two jurisdictions, and I can attest to the fact that it is much easier to port from BY-NC-SA. It is easier to discuss a licence that has all the elements already, and then work backwards from the final text of that licence into the other 5 documents.

I tried briefly to do a discussion on 6 licences during the drafting of the Costa Rican port, and it was a nightmare to keep track of everything.

Andres

On 09/04/2012 15:33, Diane Peters wrote:
Hi Ben,


To the contrary, this is not our intention at all. The fact that we
published BY-NC-SA as the draft for review has nothing to do with a
preference for NC licenses over any of the others, and everything to do
with the reality that BY-NC-SA contains all the elements of the other 5
licenses.[1] At this early stage in the process, we felt that publishing
one license with all of the elements was better than producing all six
given the number of open issues that will need to be carried through to
the others. Those on this list who have gone through the porting process
are well familiar with the exercise of mechanically building the licenses.

That said, it’s true that it could be misinterpreted as such for those
who work primarily with BY and BY-SA.Again, this wasn’t our intention,
but I should have made that more clear.Thanks for calling attention to this.


Diane


[1] The exceptions are the definition of Creative Commons Compatible
License, and including a reference to that in the SA clause. For
details see:
http://wiki.creativecommons.org/4.0/Draft_1#Provisions_for_other_Licenses_in_the_Suite


On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Ben Finney
<bignose+hates-spam AT benfinney.id.au
<mailto:bignose%2Bhates-spam AT benfinney.id.au>> wrote:

Diane Peters <diane AT creativecommons.org
<mailto:diane AT creativecommons.org>>
writes:

> Thanks for raising this. As you know, BY-SA is derived from
BY-NC-SA
> Draft 1, but with NC provisions removed and the relevant SA-related
> provisions added.

That's rather distressing. Why is the non-free NC clause given such
primacy in the process?

How can we convince you to focus primarily on free-culture licenses,
like CC-BY and CC-BY-SA, and derive the non-free licenses (if people
want them) from those free licenses?

--
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must |
`\ not conceal any part of what one has recognized to be true.” |
_o__) —Albert Einstein |
Ben Finney

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