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Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license
- From: James Grimmelmann <james AT grimmelmann.net>
- To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license
- Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 11:53:32 -0500
Henri Sivonen wrote:
On Feb 5, 2007, at 17:52, Emerson Clarke wrote:
As such i think it has both significant educational and commercial
value. I would like to be able to provide it free to the open source
and academic communities, but i do not wish for people to be able to
gain commercially from my work.
You can't--by definition. If the license doesn't allow commercial use, it isn't an Open Source license. If your license does not allow commercial use, you are not sharing with the Open Source community.
Emerson didn't say that he wanted it to be "Open Source." He just wanted to "provide it for free." You have a point that the non-commercial restriction will not make his software as useful for many academic and FOSS users as it would be under a genuinely Open Source of Free license. But he can still share his work and offer permission for some uses to others.
It is very unfortunate that CC has licenses that don't allow commercial use under the same brand as its licenses that follow Free Software and Open Source principles. Moreover, it is very unfortunate that content licensed under these "non-commercial" licenses is paraded as "Open Content" or "Open Music" and the association with Open Source risks diluting the meaning of Open Source. (Likewise, parading such content as "Free Culture" risks diluting the meaning of Free Software.)
CC offers standardized licenses for a range of permissions. The brands that matter for free and open software are brands created by organizations devoted to copyleft principles. CC doesn't claim that all of its licenses meet those principles. CC doesn't use "Free Culture" to describe itself or its licenses.
I suggest focusing on how you can make money instead of focusing on preventing others from gaining commercially.
Hear hear!
James
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[cc-licenses] open source non commercial license,
Emerson Clarke, 02/05/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license,
Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves, 02/05/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license,
Emerson Clarke, 02/05/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license, Henri Sivonen, 02/05/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license, rob, 02/05/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license,
Emerson Clarke, 02/05/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license,
Henri Sivonen, 02/05/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license,
James Grimmelmann, 02/05/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license,
Emerson Clarke, 02/05/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license,
Michael Tiemann, 02/05/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license,
Emerson Clarke, 02/05/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license,
Dana Powers, 02/05/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license, Emerson Clarke, 02/05/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license, Michael Tiemann, 02/05/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license, Emerson Clarke, 02/05/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license, Michael Tiemann, 02/05/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license, drew Roberts, 02/05/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license, Ciaran O'Riordan, 02/06/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license,
Dana Powers, 02/05/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license,
Emerson Clarke, 02/05/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license,
Michael Tiemann, 02/05/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license,
Emerson Clarke, 02/05/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license,
James Grimmelmann, 02/05/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] open source non commercial license,
Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves, 02/05/2007
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