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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?
- From: "Charles Iliya Krempeaux" <supercanadian AT gmail.com>
- To: "Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts" <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?
- Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:31:40 -0700
Hello Peter,
On 8/30/06, Peter Brink <peter.brink AT brinkdata.se> wrote:
Charles Iliya Krempeaux skrev:
>
> As you said, not according to the law. But (to be blunt)... so what?! So
> what if the law defines it (or redefined it) that way
>
> When I speak I use the definition of words (like "derivative" and
> "collective work") that are in my head. This definition is usually similar
> to the definition of my friends, colleagues, co-workers, and others I
> associate with. I learn definitions through various means from those I do
> or have associated with and through materials I can learn from.
>
> We have things like dictionaries to help people who do not associate with
> each other communicate with each other by keeping people's definitions of
> the same words similar.
>
> If the law said "2 plus 2 makes 5", I'd still think "2 plus 2 makes 4".
>
> To me, it seems obvious all "collective works" are "derivatives" based on
> how I've learnt "collective works" and "derivatives" to be defined.
>
> Now, having said that, when writing something like a license, I can see
> that
> one is compelled to use the language and definitions as given in the law.
>
It might be worthwhile to realise that laymen (i.e. non-lawyers) are not
the intended audience of the license text, lawyers are. In the end, if
there's a dispute over how to understand the license, legal
professionals are the one's who will be called upon to arbitrate the
conflict. And they will read the license using the legal language they
have been trained to use. If there's a concept called "derivative work"
in the license, then everyone will assume that it's the concept used in
copyright law that's intended.
Trying to rewrite the central concepts of copyright law would, IMO,
weaken the license, making it less defendable in court.
That makes sense. (Thanks for the explanation.)
--
Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
charles @ reptile.ca
supercanadian @ gmail.com
developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?
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- Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?, Luis Villa, 08/28/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?,
Charles Iliya Krempeaux, 08/29/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?, rob, 08/29/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?,
Charles Iliya Krempeaux, 08/28/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?, Sincaglia, Nicolas, 08/29/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?,
Greg London, 08/29/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?,
Charles Iliya Krempeaux, 08/29/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?,
Greg London, 08/29/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?,
Charles Iliya Krempeaux, 08/30/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?, Peter Brink, 08/30/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?, Charles Iliya Krempeaux, 08/30/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?,
Charles Iliya Krempeaux, 08/30/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?,
Greg London, 08/29/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?, Peter Brink, 08/30/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?,
Charles Iliya Krempeaux, 08/29/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?,
drew Roberts, 08/30/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?,
Peter Brink, 08/30/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?, drew Roberts, 08/30/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?,
Peter Brink, 08/30/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?,
rob, 08/29/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons & Copyleft question?, Greg London, 08/29/2006
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