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  • From: "Douglas Pollard" <Dougpol1 AT>
  • To: "Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts" <cc-licenses AT>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Dumping CC-BY-NC-ND and Narrowing CC-BY-ND
  • Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 18:51:45 -0400

Seems to me that what we are trying to do by democratic means, can only be done by a republick. A thousand people will never be able to decide something that 10 people can make a reasonable decision on quickly. This will never be decided, on line.

----- Original Messag---- rom: "Ŭalabio‽" <Walabio AT>
To: <cc-licenses AT>; "Cory Doctorow" <doctorow AT>
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 6:11 PM
Subject: [cc-licenses] Dumping CC-BY-NC-ND and Narrowing CC-BY-ND


¿How Fare You?

Awhile ago, I did took an impromptu poll and determined that most
people hate CC-BY-NC-ND as being antithetical to the purpose as a
creative commons (one cannot build on them). We should remove CC-BY-
NC-ND from future versions of the licenses and reduce the scope of CC-
BY-ND to commercial works.

We should create all licenses along these lines:

0. - the freedom to run the work for any purpose (called "freedom
0"), at least noncommercially
1. - the freedom to study and modify the program ("freedom 1"), at
least noncommercially
2. - the freedom to copy the work so you can help your neighbor
("freedom 2"), at least noncommercially
3. - the freedom to improve the work, and release your improvements
to the public, so that the whole community benefits ("freedom 3"), at
least noncommercially

In the meant time, I find that CC-BY-NC-ND is such an abomination,
that I do not feel bound by it. I shall follow the freedoms. To me,
CC-BY-NC-ND is CC-BY-NC. CC-BY-ND does not apply to noncommercial
works. I shall write all of the missing chapter I want for CC-BY-NC-
ND and CC-BY-ND and release them noncommercially. I shall encourage
others to do likewise.

CC-BY-NC-ND and CC-BY-ND applied to noncommercial works is
incompatible with the concept of a creative commons because one
cannot build on them.







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