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- From: "Gary (AUDN)" <gary AT audn.net>
- To: "'Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts'" <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Creative commons for music
- Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:06:17 +0100
Yes I kindof agree. Although I think your scenario is definitely feasible, I'm not sure how
many artists are realistically going to get their "big break" this
way - especially with the state of commercial radio. In the To play an artist who is not part of this system, and possibly incur
additional royalty fees is not particularly likely. It is more likely the discovered
artist would get a contract with a standard record label and become "part
of the system". If I wanted to start an internet radio station in the UK and use
"standard music", then my license fees, per year, if I had only 100 regular
listeners, work out at around 1000 GBP (1700 USD)!!! (I would need to make 3000
GBP from these 100 listeners just to break even). See http://www.mediauk.com/article/1
for more info if you are interested. Basically, the dominant licensing companies currently favour the large
corporations and (certainly in the There is a huge opportunity for artists and independent/small internet radio
stations to make a stand against this "manufactured" industry - and
make money whilst doing it. However after some discussion on here, I do not think the Creative
Commons licenses as they are currently structured will be the savior. The
greatest selection of music tracks is available NC only. I think the likely next step would be for someone to create a cheaper music
licensing system for smaller companies, using artists who are currently
releasing tracks through CC. This way, artists will be paid modestly and "internet
radio" companies can exist! I think we need to take a pragmatic approach here. Even the well respected
"Radio Paradise" is a for-profit venture. I guess I am basically saying that the music licensing companies have monopolised
the market. They favour the large companies because it keeps them dominant. I believe there is a need for competitive licensing organization(s)
which favours the small companies, and with this mechanism in place, internet
radio can flourish and take the artists with them. >Greg wrote: >Music Mike records some tracks. He licenses one of them >CC-BY-NC-ND. Fans pass the track around via email and their >webpages, and it becomes viral. It eventually comes to the >attention of Radio Rick who is a DJ and who wants to play >the song on their commercial station. If the work is CC-BY, >with a URL that points to license information and contact >information, then Rick can get ahold of Mike and ask him if >he'd be willing to allow him to play the song over commercial >airspace. > >You don't need this license to allow people to broadcast >your music for indirect commercial profit. The lack of the >license is not the gating factor. The gating factor is getting >a work that's viral enough that some commercial place wants >to play it. And if they want to play it, and you licensed >it CC-BY-NC-ND, they should be able to click through to your >attribution URL, get your contact information, and email you >for permission to broadcast your work without paying you, >if that's what you're willing ot allow them to do. > >Some things don't get solved by a license because the lack of >the license is not the cause of the problem. This is one of >those situations. |
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative commons for music
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative commons for music,
Greg London, 04/03/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative commons for music,
Gary (AUDN), 04/04/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Creative commons for music, drew Roberts, 04/04/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative commons for music,
Greg London, 04/04/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative commons for music,
Greg London, 04/04/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Creative commons for music, Gary (AUDN), 04/05/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Creative commons for music, drew Roberts, 04/05/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Creative commons for music, Terry Hancock, 04/05/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Creative commons for music, Greg London, 04/06/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Creative commons for music, Greg London, 04/06/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Creative commons for music, Gary (AUDN), 04/06/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Creative commons for music, drew Roberts, 04/06/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative commons for music,
Greg London, 04/04/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative commons for music,
Gary (AUDN), 04/04/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] Creative commons for music,
Greg London, 04/03/2006
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