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[Ben <bencheng AT oursky.com>]

Nevermind, please feel free to join us... Hope that we can see you next 
time...

Ben

2008/6/17 Daisy Maris Fung <daisy.fung AT gmail.com>:
> 其實我有想過今晚會不會參與一下，可是一直都沒有參加你們的會議，
> 現在到投票的時候又多出了一人，好像有點怪異的說。
>
> 2008/6/17 Chong Chan-yau <chanyau AT hku.hk>:
>> I like 創意共用
>> Sorry I cannot join the meeting again.
>> Chan Yau
>> ________________________________
>> From: cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
>> [mailto:cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Oiwan Lam
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:46 PM
>> To: Jerry~Yuyu
>> Cc: Ben; cc-hk
>> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] the question of the CCHK Chinese name
>>
>> am thinking about whether we should put hk into the name...
>>
>> if it is 創意共用(香港), can we make a abbreviation as 創用香港?
>>
>> 2008/6/16 Jerry~Yuyu <jerry.tschan.yu AT gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Halo,
>>>
>>> as I might come late tomorrow, so I'll state my views first
>>>
>>> my first choice is 創意共用...... and then to 創意共享
>>>
>>> however, I wonder should we add "協議" (license) or sort of terms at the end
>>> of the name
>>> to indicate what actually it is........ as not many people around actually
>>> know what CC is, I mean the general public.
>>>
>>> Jeromy-Yu Maximilian Chan
>>> Jerry~雨雨
>>> User:Yuyu
>>>
>>> Deputy President
>>> Wikimedia Hong Kong
>>>
>>> Tel: +852 9279 1601
>>> Laudamus quae laudentur
>>>
>>> 2008/6/16 Rebecca MacKinnon <rebecca.mackinnon AT gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> I look forward to seeing all of you tomorrow.  Please note that Pindar
>>>> has outlined the following voting process:
>>>> ---
>>>> Two items will be put to vote at this meeting aiming at a final
>>>> selection. This will follow the Olympic City process:
>>>> After decision on whether ballots are to be public/private -
>>>> (a) ballot goes through as many voting rounds as required until there are
>>>> only two alternatives at the last round,
>>>> (b) alternative with the least vote at each round is discarded,
>>>> (c) those who cannot attend the June meeting can indicate their
>>>> preferences by email, marking 1st, 2nd, 3rd Preferences
>>>> (d) in case of a tie, the Chair has the casting vote.
>>>> -----
>>>> Please e-mail your preferences if you cannot attend in person.
>>>> Here is what the wiki currently says about the versions of the name which
>>>> the Exco has been discussing so far:
>>>> 香港創意（作）共享（用）
>>>> Thus the top choices (with or without 香港  at the front) include the
>>>> following combinations:
>>>> 創意共享 - "creativity sharing"
>>>> 創作共享 - "creation/creative work sharing"
>>>> 創意共用 - "creativity commons/public use"
>>>> 創作共用 - "creation/creative work commons/public use"
>>>>
>>>> For reference, the Taiwan name is創用CC, while mainland China has
>>>> adopted知識共享@中國。(Though I believe they do not use @中國 in their licenses, 
>>>> it's
>>>> just 知識共享) The Taiwan name literally means "Create, Use CC"; the mainland
>>>> name is literally "Knowledge Sharing @ China"
>>>>
>>>> There is an alternative mainland name, 創作共用, which was adopted by Isaac
>>>> Mao and the CNblog community before the anointment of the current 
>>>> official
>>>> CC China mainland team. That name can be found on the creativecommons.cn
>>>> website which was created by the CNblog community. There is a somewhat
>>>> bitter history surrounding the fact that there are two groups and two 
>>>> names.
>>>> I will not go into that here. The CCHK exco would like to maintain good
>>>> relations with both the official CC China mainland project as well as the
>>>> CNblog grassroots community and is not interested in picking sides.
>>>>
>>>> Nobody on the Exco or other people we spoke with in the community were
>>>> especially thrilled with either the Taiwan or the official mainland China
>>>> name, feeling that neither would be appropriate for the Hong Kong user
>>>> community.
>>>>
>>>> There is still some question about whether we should adopt a Chinese name
>>>> at all - CC International is concerned that two official Chinese names 
>>>> (and
>>>> one unofficial Chinese name) for CC are already confusing enough. There 
>>>> is
>>>> concern that yet another name adopted by CCHK would create even more
>>>> confusion among users on the Chinese speaking Internet. At the same time,
>>>> Oiwan has pointed out that having a good Chinese name will help with 
>>>> local
>>>> adoption of the CC license in HK and avoid confusion with other media in
>>>> Hong Kong already using cc (with other meanings) in their names or URL's.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for considering these issues seriously. We look forward to your
>>>> views and your votes on Tuesday night. If you can't come please e-mail 
>>>> your
>>>> top 3 preferences, or let us know any other ideas you have.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Rebecca
>>>>
>>>>
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