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["Chong Chan-yau" <chanyau AT hku.hk>]

I like 創意共用

Sorry I cannot join the meeting again.

Chan Yau

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From: cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Oiwan Lam
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:46 PM
To: Jerry~Yuyu
Cc: Ben; cc-hk
Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] the question of the CCHK Chinese name

am thinking about whether we should put hk into the name...

if 
it is 創意共用(香港), can we make a abbreviation as 創用香港?

2008/6/16 Jerry~Yuyu <jerry.tschan.yu@gmail.com>:

Halo,

as I might come late tomorrow, so I'll state my views first

my first choice is 創意共用...... and then to 創意共享

however, I wonder should we add "協議" (license) or sort of terms at the end of the name
to indicate what actually it is........ as not many people around actually know what CC is, I mean the general public.

Jeromy-Yu Maximilian Chan
Jerry~雨雨
User:Yuyu

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Wikimedia Hong Kong

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2008/6/16 Rebecca MacKinnon <rebecca.mackinnon AT gmail.com>:

I look forward to seeing all of you tomorrow.  Please note that Pindar has outlined the following voting process:
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Two items will be put to vote at this meeting aiming at a final selection. This will follow the Olympic City process:
After decision on whether ballots are to be public/private -
(a) ballot goes through as many voting rounds as required until there are only two alternatives at the last round,
(b) alternative with the least vote at each round is discarded,
(c) those who cannot attend the June meeting can indicate their preferences by email, marking 1st, 2nd, 3rd Preferences
(d) in case of a tie, the Chair has the casting vote.
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Please e-mail your preferences if you cannot attend in person.
Here is what the wiki currently says about the versions of the name which the Exco has been discussing so far:
香港創意（作）共享（用）
Thus the top choices (with or without 香港  at the front) include the following combinations:
創意共享 - "creativity sharing"
創作共享 - "creation/creative work sharing"
創意共用 - "creativity commons/public use"
創作共用 - "creation/creative work commons/public use"

For reference, the Taiwan name is創用CC, while mainland China has adopted知識共享@中國。(Though I believe they do not use @中國 in their licenses, it's just 知識共享) The Taiwan name literally means "Create, Use CC"; the mainland name is literally "Knowledge Sharing @ China"

There is an alternative mainland name, 創作共用, which was adopted by Isaac Mao and the CNblog community before the anointment of the current official CC China mainland team. That name can be found on the creativecommons.cn website which was created by the CNblog community. There is a somewhat bitter history surrounding the fact that there are two groups and two names. I will not go into that here. The CCHK exco would like to maintain good relations with both the official CC China mainland project as well as the CNblog grassroots community and is not interested in picking sides.

Nobody on the Exco or other people we spoke with in the community were especially thrilled with either the Taiwan or the official mainland China name, feeling that neither would be appropriate for the Hong Kong user community.

There is still some question about whether we should adopt a Chinese name at all - CC International is concerned that two official Chinese names (and one unofficial Chinese name) for CC are already confusing enough. There is concern that yet another name adopted by CCHK would create even more confusion among users on the Chinese speaking Internet. At the same time, Oiwan has pointed out that having a good Chinese name will help with local adoption of the CC license in HK and avoid confusion with other media in Hong Kong already using cc (with other meanings) in their names or URL's.

Thanks for considering these issues seriously. We look forward to your views and your votes on Tuesday night. If you can't come please e-mail your top 3 preferences, or let us know any other ideas you have.

Best,
Rebecca


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