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  • From: "Sam Hau" <samhau83 AT gmail.com>
  • To: "Oiwan Lam" <oiwan.lam AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] Follow up to translation of keywords used in Creative Commons
  • Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:05:23 +0800

Hi Oiwan,

I agree to the phrase 衍生 [of cos, i used that too], but "禁止衍生" sounds
a bit weird to me, cos the action "衍生" should be referring to the
work, thus it means to me that the work is deriving or breeding
itself. I think its better to add a second action to refer what is
being done by the person, hence"禁止衍生(action 2)". my suggestion is
"創作", thus "禁止衍生創作", or "創造". another option is to refer to the
derived work. thus "禁止衍生作品".

And i agree to your first suggestion, i think 出處 is good.
another suggestion i can think of is "標明作者"

Best,
Sam

On 3/20/08, Oiwan Lam <oiwan.lam AT gmail.com> wrote:
> since i have been working for the copyright tag for inmedia's new CMS,
> initial we translate as such:
>
> attributive: 引用出處 (some time the attribution is not a 'name', so i use the
> common terms in essay writing for quoting the source)
> non-commercial: 非商業性
> share alike: 以相同方式分享
> non-derivative: 禁止洐生
>
> oiwan
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Sam Hau <samhau83 AT gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Ben and Hei-Ching,
> >
> > No Derivative
> > First phrase that comes to mind is 改編, it is the most natural and
> > easily understand phrase, but that would be an equivalent to
> > 'Adaptation', which is restricted for 'literary dramatic or musical
> > work(s)'.
> > so I'd like to suggest a slightly longer translation-
> > 禁止衍生創作
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Sam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/20/08, Hei-Ching CHAN <heiching AT hkusua.hku.hk> wrote:
> > > Hi Ben,
> > >
> > > Should we edit the file directly or should we send you our
> translations?
> > >
> > > Attribution署名 (source:
> > >
> http://www.ipd.gov.hk/chi/information/studyaids/media_cpr.htm)
> > > Non-commercial非商業目的/非商業用途的 (I find different interpretation in
> > > different context)
> > >
> > > I shall look into others in more details a little later.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Hei Ching
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > > [mailto:cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Ben
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:20 PM
> > > To: cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > > Subject: [Cc-hk] Follow up to translation of keywords used in Creative
> > > Commons
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I've created a Google Spreadsheet for collaboration on translating
> > > keywords used in Creative Commons here:
> > >
> > >
> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pT4DxQuqwttLvuS8K9NKyVQ
> > >
> > > For those who are interested, please start to look at it, add new
> > > entry, do translation, and discuss here. Jerry and Hei-ming said they
> > > can do that so I'm counting on you now :-)
> > >
> > > I will collect the translation and send it to the group there when the
> > > list become more mature, so that everyone will have a chance to look
> > > at, they can be some kind of "suggested terms to use" in future.
> > >
> > > Bests,
> > > Ben
> > >
> > >
> > >
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