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  • From: Jon Phillips <jon AT creativecommons.org>
  • To: uta lam <utalam AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] Meeting?
  • Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 12:54:29 -0700

On Sun, 2007-06-24 at 12:46 +0800, uta lam wrote:
> Hi Jon,
>
> It's good to hear from you. I will try to make it once the meeting is
> confirmed.

Great! Are there dates that you prefer?

> I helped organizing a web2.0 startup two weeks ago (Here is a report
> on it: http://anguslau.com/2007/06/15/hong-kong-web-startup-meetup/)
> and met a number of web2.0 startup founders in Hong Kong. Here is a
> blog talk about it. Maybe you would like to get in touch with them
> eventually. Feel free to let me know if you need their contact.

Looks perfect for what I wanted to focus on!

Yes, please do put in touch with and also Angus. Maybe we could schedule
a follow-up web 2.0 meetup to talk about CC + Hong Kong + Business + web
2.0.

I can present about cc and web 2.0 biz trends.

Jon


> Have a great weekend!
>
> Uta
>
> On 6/24/07, Jon Phillips <jon AT creativecommons.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 19:27 +0800, Rebecca MacKinnon wrote:
> > Hello everybody. Just thought I would revive this thread.
> Shall we
> > organize a meeting for July or August?
> > Rebecca
>
> Hi all, the best time for me is going to be late July, early
> august. I
> have to be back in SF pretty quick after wikimania.
>
> Is during the week okay? I'm also quite interested in meeting
> with
> businesses who are interested in using CC licensing. I would
> like to
> spend 1-2 days in Hong Kong to get CC-HK setup and then also
> setup some
> high level business meetings to present CC to public and
> privately to
> key businesses.
>
> What dates seem the best? July 30, 31, August 1, 2 all are
> open, but I
> have to be in Tapei for wikimania AUG 2-5.
>
> Cheers! Would it make sense to have one legal meetup to get
> the legal
> team squared away? And then, have a wider public meetup?
>
> Jon
>
> > On May 21, 2007, at 10:21 AM, Li Yahong wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Matthew and Jon,
> > >
> > >
> > > Perhaps early August is better as Jon can join then. Can
> Jon
> > > confirm a date when he is in HK?
> > >
> > >
> > > Best, Yahong
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew MF Yuen"
> <meymf AT ust.hk>
> > > To: "Jon Phillips" < jon AT creativecommons.org>
> > > Cc: "Li Yahong" <yali AT hku.hk>; <cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org>;
> "uta lam"
> > > <utalam AT gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 9:16 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] Notes from Last Friday's Informal
> Lunch - May
> > > 11th
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dear Jon,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The important person is Yahong. I would like to pin down
> her diary
> > > > first. I would be
> > > > flexible to accomodate.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Yahong,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Shall we go by July 15 as per suggested?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Matthew
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jon Phillips wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 10:03 +0800, Matthew Yuen wrote:
> > > > > > Dear Jon,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am not sure whether I shall be around on 15th
> July. Let us
> > > > > work on > this day, if
> > > > > > I am not around, I shall get someone in the TTC
> office to host
> > > > > it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Matthew
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok, sounds good...what dates are good for you then?
> Like I said,
> > > > > I can
> > > > > possibly come through early Aug. near wikimania in
> Taipei.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jon
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Jon Phillips wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 10:38 +0800, Li Yahong
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi Jon,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How about July 15?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yahong
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That sounds good. I'll be in UK then. Although, I
> will be in
> > > > > Taipei > > Aug
> > > > > > > 3-5, so I might be able to swing through then...I
> don't want
> > > > > to slow > > the
> > > > > > > process down though.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jon
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Jon Phillips" <jon AT creativecommons.org>
> > > > > > > > To: "Mr. Pindar Wong" <pindar AT pacific.net.hk>
> > > > > > > > Cc: < cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org>; "Li Yahong"
> <yali AT hku.hk>;
> > > > > "Matthew > > > MF Yuen"
> > > > > > > > < meymf AT ust.hk>; "uta lam" <utalam AT gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:05 AM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] Notes from Last Friday's
> Informal
> > > > > Lunch - May > > > 11th
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 07:56 +0800, Mr. Pindar
> Wong
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> On May 16, 2007, at 3:03 AM, Jon Phillips
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> > On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 00:05 +0800, uta lam
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> >> Hi Pindar,
> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> Wow, you guys really discuss a lot of
> issues in the
> > > > > meeting.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> it was quite informative actually and
> fortunately went
> > > > > beyond > > > >> the
> > > > > > > > >> initial exchanging of pleasantries ;)
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> I would imagine that a first formal meeting
> would be
> > > > > even more > > > >> so...
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> But as I remember that the key of starting
> the
> > > > > project is to > > > >> >> identify
> > > > > > > > >> >> a legal lead first, any potential
> candidates
> > > > > nominated from > > > >> >> the
> > > > > > > > >> >> meeting?
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> In trying to understand the status of the
> project thus
> > > > > far, we > > > >> also
> > > > > > > > >> named Ms Yahong Li and Prof. Matthew Yuen
> (from Jon's
> > > > > first > > > >> meeting
> > > > > > > > >> on this subject back in 2006)!
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> As far as we could tell, based on postings to
> this
> > > > > list,
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> 1) we've two legal scholars Ms. Yahong Li
> (HKU) and
> > > > > Rebecca Ong
> > > > > > > > >> (City U - kindly introduced by Kenneth)
> > > > > > > > >> 2) several individuals associated with
> 'academic'
> > > > > bodies - > > > >> applied
> > > > > > > > >> research (ASTRI) and universities (HKUST, CU,
> HKU ... )
> > > > > law > > > >> faculties/
> > > > > > > > >> media/cultural studies departments
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> So Uta ... several potential candidates and
> > > > > institutions! ;)
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> CC may have already identified both (from
> Jon's email
> > > > > below) -- > > > >> which
> > > > > > > > >> is *fantastic* to move things forward! :)
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Although the ligh-level process for formation
> was clear
> > > > > ( > > > >> http://
> > > > > > > > >>
> wiki.creativecommons.org/Worldwide_Overview ), we
> > > > > nevertheless > > > >> had
> > > > > > > > >> several operational/logistical/strategic
> user-related
> > > > > questions > > > >> as
> > > > > > > > >> well as some practical ones e.g. whether our
> existing
> > > > > > > > >> commercial
> > > > > > > > >> contacts could be used to leverage pro-bono
> work from
> > > > > a > > > >> commercial
> > > > > > > > >> law firm (Bakers, JSM, Slaughter&May etc) for
> the
> > > > > initial review
> > > > > > > > >> (given that we've a common law history and
> version 3.0
> > > > > > > > >> released )
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> So, with the combined experience on this
> list, we
> > > > > should have > > > >> enough
> > > > > > > > >> clue to answer the 'known unknowns' !
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> As Jon, who was at the first meeting in 2006,
> mentioned
> > > > > both
> > > > > > > > >> >> Any plan to contact those candidates?
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Ah... well they're all on the list and
> assumed to be >
> > > > > > > >> periodically
> > > > > > > > >> reading mail.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Based on Yahong's email of May 8th, she would
> not be
> > > > > available > > > >> till
> > > > > > > > >> July (earliest) and the thought of organising
> a 1st
> > > > > meeting in > > > >> July
> > > > > > > > >> was in deference to this reality.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Yahong: Would it be possible for you to
> propose a
> > > > > convenient > > > >> date in
> > > > > > > > >> July per your scheduled?
> > > > > > > > >> Matthew: Would it be possible for you to host
> this
> > > > > meeting in > > > >> HKUST?
> > > > > > > > >> Jon: Would it be possible to participate by
> > > > > teleconference/video
> > > > > > > > >> conference (we could rig something up)?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sure, but Catharina, is really the ideal
> person to do
> > > > > this :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Jon
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> p.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >> >> Uta
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > Ms Yahong Li and Prof. Matthew Yuen
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > There is a chance that both Catharina and
> myself will
> > > > > be at
> > > > > > > > >> > wikimania in
> > > > > > > > >> > taiwan in AUG, so depending if either of us
> get
> > > > > there, could > > > >> > possibly
> > > > > > > > >> > swing through. Catharina is your best
> bet...
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > I will potentially travel through though in
> the next
> > > > > 6-9 > > > >> > months
> > > > > > > > >> > because
> > > > > > > > >> > my family lives in Guangzhou...and I'm
> scouting out
> > > > > places to > > > >> > live in
> > > > > > > > >> > China/HK ;) (a little personal info for you
> all :)
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > Jon
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Jon Phillips
> > > > > > > > > jon AT creativecommons.org
> > > > > > > > > cell: 510.499.0894
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Community/Business Developer
> > > > > > > > > Creative Commons
> > > > > > > > > www.creativecommons.org
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Jon Phillips
> > > > > > > jon AT creativecommons.org
> > > > > > > cell: 510.499.0894
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Community/Business Developer
> > > > > > > Creative Commons
> > > > > > > www.creativecommons.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Matthew Yuen, Ph.D.
> > > > > > Director, Technology Transfer Centre, and
> > > > > > Professor of Mechanical Engineering
> > > > > > Hong Kong University of Science & Technology
> > > > > > Clearwater Bay,
> > > > > > Hong Kong
> > > > > > Tel: (852) 2358 7914
> > > > > > Fax: (852) 2358 1202
> > > > > > Email: meymf AT ust.hk
> > > > > > http://www.ttc.ust.hk/
> > > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jon Phillips
> > > > > jon AT creativecommons.org
> > > > > cell: 510.499.0894
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Community/Business Developer
> > > > > Creative Commons
> > > > > www.creativecommons.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Prof. Matthew M F Yuen
> > > > Director, Technology Transfer Center and
> > > > Professor of Mechanical Engineering
> > > > Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
> > > > Clearwater Bay, N.T.,
> > > > Hong Kong
> > > > Tel: (852) 2358 7914, Fax: (852) 2358 1202
> > > > Email: meymf AT ust.hk
> > > > http://www.ttc.ust.hk/
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rebecca MacKinnon
> > Assistant Professor, Journalism & Media Studies Ctr.
> > University of Hong Kong (http://jmsc.hku.hk)
> >
> >
> > email: rmack AT hku.hk
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> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> --
> Jon Phillips
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> cell: 510.499.0894
>
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