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[Jon Phillips <jon AT creativecommons.org>]

On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 00:05 +0800, uta lam wrote:
> Hi Pindar,
> 
> Wow, you guys really discuss a lot of issues in the meeting.
> 
> But as I remember that the key of starting the project is to identify
> a legal lead first, any potential candidates nominated from the
> meeting? Any plan to contact those candidates?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Uta

Ms Yahong Li and Prof. Matthew Yuen

There is a chance that both Catharina and myself will be at wikimania in
taiwan in AUG, so depending if either of us get there, could possibly
swing through. Catharina is your best bet...

I will potentially travel through though in the next 6-9 months because
my family lives in Guangzhou...and I'm scouting out places to live in
China/HK ;) (a little personal info for you all :)

Jon

> On 5/15/07, Mr. Pindar Wong <pindar AT pacific.net.hk> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > As you can imagine our brief lunch discussion last week  was both
> > high-level and wide-ranging, so I've tried to put some structure
> > around it  in the summary notes FWIW below.
> >
> > Thanks much,
> >
> > p.
> >
> > -------------
> >
> > Date:           Friday May 11th 2007
> > Start Time:     13:00
> > End Time:        14.20 (Charles Mok left at 14.00)
> > Venue:          Union American Bar & Grill, IFC, HK
> > Attendees:
> >                Rebecca MacKinnon
> >                Charles Mok
> >                Laikwan Pang
> >                Yat Siu
> >                Pindar Wong
> >
> > There was a  sense that:
> >
> > 1)  Although there is anecdotal evidence that HK is already using the
> > existing Creative Commons license, our community might benefit
> > further from
> >        1.1) the legal clarity provided by having a locally ported version
> > of the generic 3.0 license,
> >        1.2) the educational, promotional and other  activities essential 
> > to
> > encourage its adoption and use,
> >        1.3) participating in the wider Creative Commons' discussions and
> > debates,
> >        1.4) the legitimacy provided by the existing Creative Commons
> > structure.
> >
> > 2)  Although there appears to be no absolute time,  or an established
> > timetable, by which a Creative Commons Hong Kong (CCHK) *must* be
> > formed, it was nevertheless felt:
> >
> >        2.1) that the time is right to gauge the need, and prepare a launch
> > for, a  Creative Commons Hong Kong and
> >
> > \       2.2) that systematic planning and organization of effort might 
> > help
> > minimize the risks ( and maximize the chances of success)  of not
> > just the launch, but the ultimate success of the intiative
> >
> >        2.3) that in the short-term it is essential to
> >                2.3.1)  review  the legal documentation,
> >                2.3.2)  identify a Project Lead and Institution,
> >                2.3.3.) quantify, and secure, the necessary resources and
> > 'infrastructure' (e.g. people's time, money, support, attention etc.)
> > and
> >                2.3.4)  have the support of those who would move to/or 
> > will soon
> > use the HK license
> >
> >        2.4) that 2 Quarters (i.e. 6 months) would not be an unreasonable
> > estimate of time to launch CCHK (i.e. by the end of 2007)
> >
> >        2.5) that an initial 'guestimate' of funding requirements was
> > modest  (e.g.  in the order of a few hundred thousand HK Dollars)  and
> >                2.5.1) there could be several sources of such funding 
> > (e.g. private
> > sector, wealthy individuals, HK Government etc) and
> >                2.5.2) several models of organisational support, structure 
> > and
> > operation.
> >
> > 3)  Therefore it should be suggested to the cchk mailing list  that a
> > 1st formal face-to-face meeting of an 'organising committee' per se,
> > be held as soon as convenient.
> >        3.1) It was understood that the earliest convenient time for such a
> > meeting would be in July 2007? and
> >        3.2) that it would be especially helpful to have someone from
> > Creative Commons, who has deep experience with such porting and
> > start-up issues, participate in some way at this meeting
> >        3.3) that those who are already use/interested/aware of, Creative
> > Commons be encouraged to participate in our activities (especially
> > the end users who are currently absent from the discussion).
> >        3.4) that, if possible, detailed  strawmen business models and 
> > plans
> > be developed and discussed at  this meeting.
> >
> >
> > 4)  In the meantime, it would be particularly helpful to clarify
> >
> >        4.1) The existing number, and type of, user already using the CC
> > License in HK,
> >        4.2) Detailed mechanics and resource requirements for launch, and
> > initial actvities
> >        4.3) thoughts on the business model and plan.
> >
> > 5) As far as 4) above, there is the possibility of Yat visiting the
> > CC Berlin office, in the next fortnight, when he's in Germany. So it
> > would be good to surface issues as soon as possible.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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