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["uta lam" <utalam AT gmail.com>]

Hi Pindar,

Wow, you guys really discuss a lot of issues in the meeting.

But as I remember that the key of starting the project is to identify
a legal lead first, any potential candidates nominated from the
meeting? Any plan to contact those candidates?


Thanks,
Uta

On 5/15/07, Mr. Pindar Wong <pindar AT pacific.net.hk> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As you can imagine our brief lunch discussion last week  was both
> high-level and wide-ranging, so I've tried to put some structure
> around it  in the summary notes FWIW below.
>
> Thanks much,
>
> p.
>
> -------------
>
> Date:           Friday May 11th 2007
> Start Time:     13:00
> End Time:        14.20 (Charles Mok left at 14.00)
> Venue:          Union American Bar & Grill, IFC, HK
> Attendees:
>                Rebecca MacKinnon
>                Charles Mok
>                Laikwan Pang
>                Yat Siu
>                Pindar Wong
>
> There was a  sense that:
>
> 1)  Although there is anecdotal evidence that HK is already using the
> existing Creative Commons license, our community might benefit
> further from
>        1.1) the legal clarity provided by having a locally ported version
> of the generic 3.0 license,
>        1.2) the educational, promotional and other  activities essential to
> encourage its adoption and use,
>        1.3) participating in the wider Creative Commons' discussions and
> debates,
>        1.4) the legitimacy provided by the existing Creative Commons
> structure.
>
> 2)  Although there appears to be no absolute time,  or an established
> timetable, by which a Creative Commons Hong Kong (CCHK) *must* be
> formed, it was nevertheless felt:
>
>        2.1) that the time is right to gauge the need, and prepare a launch
> for, a  Creative Commons Hong Kong and
>
> \       2.2) that systematic planning and organization of effort might help
> minimize the risks ( and maximize the chances of success)  of not
> just the launch, but the ultimate success of the intiative
>
>        2.3) that in the short-term it is essential to
>                2.3.1)  review  the legal documentation,
>                2.3.2)  identify a Project Lead and Institution,
>                2.3.3.) quantify, and secure, the necessary resources and
> 'infrastructure' (e.g. people's time, money, support, attention etc.)
> and
>                2.3.4)  have the support of those who would move to/or will 
> soon
> use the HK license
>
>        2.4) that 2 Quarters (i.e. 6 months) would not be an unreasonable
> estimate of time to launch CCHK (i.e. by the end of 2007)
>
>        2.5) that an initial 'guestimate' of funding requirements was
> modest  (e.g.  in the order of a few hundred thousand HK Dollars)  and
>                2.5.1) there could be several sources of such funding (e.g. 
> private
> sector, wealthy individuals, HK Government etc) and
>                2.5.2) several models of organisational support, structure and
> operation.
>
> 3)  Therefore it should be suggested to the cchk mailing list  that a
> 1st formal face-to-face meeting of an 'organising committee' per se,
> be held as soon as convenient.
>        3.1) It was understood that the earliest convenient time for such a
> meeting would be in July 2007? and
>        3.2) that it would be especially helpful to have someone from
> Creative Commons, who has deep experience with such porting and
> start-up issues, participate in some way at this meeting
>        3.3) that those who are already use/interested/aware of, Creative
> Commons be encouraged to participate in our activities (especially
> the end users who are currently absent from the discussion).
>        3.4) that, if possible, detailed  strawmen business models and plans
> be developed and discussed at  this meeting.
>
>
> 4)  In the meantime, it would be particularly helpful to clarify
>
>        4.1) The existing number, and type of, user already using the CC
> License in HK,
>        4.2) Detailed mechanics and resource requirements for launch, and
> initial actvities
>        4.3) thoughts on the business model and plan.
>
> 5) As far as 4) above, there is the possibility of Yat visiting the
> CC Berlin office, in the next fortnight, when he's in Germany. So it
> would be good to surface issues as soon as possible.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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