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Dear Eric,
As an IP scholar who is troubled by the issue
of balance of interests between right holders and users, I see CC project
as one of good alternatives and practical solutions to solve
the troubled issue. I wish whole heartily for the project
to be launched in HK. However, I need to seek support from my
Faculty first and need to have more understanding of this project such as
funding, etc. before making any commitment. As my earlier email indicates,
my schedule is quite tight now. But I am also in the process of learning
and thinking. Catharina had sent me some information to help me in
this process. I plan to consult my Faculty as soon as possible and
will update everyone on whatever progress or decision at my end.
Best, Yahong
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] HKU Copyright seminar
video
Catharina (from CC International, Berlin) will respond to
this, and correct me if I am wrong, but that is correct, the CC process is to
first find a project lead who is a respected legal scholar in a local
institution. That person signs a memorandum of understanding with CCI
and there should then be a first draft of the legal translation. A team
will then be formed to do the translation and porting drafts (adaptation to
the local laws), set up meetings and web site, and so on. CC-HK should
include users and technical people as well as lawyers, and pro bono legal help
from local law firms is appreciated at that point.
So it sounds as if
Professor Li will agree to join as project lead and discuss this with
Catharina? The project could then move forward on her timetable,
considering her other current responsibilities. But if she does not
agree to the contract, then we must find another project lead to begin.
In any case, we should not do any of this ourselves, but Catharina will take
the lead, and then it will be the job of the project lead with CCI.
In
the meantime, as Jon suggested, it is possible for HK users to use the generic
3.0 CC licenses from http://www.creativecommons.org.
These are not the US licenses (which are now ported from these generic
licenses) any more, but they are in English.
The work about the
Copyright Initiative in HK should also go forward without considering CC; it
is a motive for creating CC in HK, but CC should be done no matter whatever
government action.
Bear in mind there is also a parallel group called
iCommons, which has a summit meeting
in Dubrovnik, Croatia, June
15-17--see the CC web page for links--and it would be good
if
representatives from HK as well as other places could confer there to
discuss many common problems and solutions.
After the licenses are
ported and published and launched, CC-HK will continue as an organization with
many concerns such as sponsoring salons, dealing with collecting socities,
listening to user needs, and so on.
If there is a problem with funding
CC-HK activities, please let me know privately. And if you need help raising
money from rich people in HK, for example to fund iCommons scholarships, I
would be glad to help.
The actual launch of the licenses in about six
months is a great celebration--I look forward
to that, but I will try to
come down to HK from Shanghai this summer to meet all of you first. You show
real enthusiasm and team spirit and this is all a great pleasure to me as a
co-founder of Creative Commons, now living in China.
=ericeldred
On 5/8/07, Yip Kai Kut
Kenneth <kenneth AT astri.org>
wrote:
Hi
All,
Yesterday, I had
lunch with Ms. Rebecca Ong, a Teaching Fellow of City University and
specialize in IP law. Rebecca expressed her interests to help.
This is a great news to would be HK-CC. We have law faculty members
from both HKU (Yahong) and City U (Rebecca Ong), as well as support from HKU
journalism dept (Rebecca MacKinnon) and UST technology transfer centre
(Matthew). It is a very good start.
During the lunch,
we both are not sure about the duties the institution has to perform other
than coordinating the effort to adapt the CC licenses for HK use. For
example, should the institution be responsible to maintain a web page?
This could help estimating the cost and logistics effort. Could
Catharina help us on this question?
Below is something
I have in mind about the schedule (ref: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Worldwide_Overview)
:
- Create drafts for the six Ver
3.0 Licenses (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/ ) for HK use.
This effort will be championed by the institution, and supported by other
academics and anyone who are willing to help. I will not count on
private sector lawyers on this stage unless they are volunteering their
valuable time.
- Solicit comments for the
drafts. We will seek private sector lawyers' help, may be even help
from DOJ and IPD.
- Repeat (1) and
(2).
- Send the drafts to Creative
Commons for review.
- Translate the drafts into
Chinese.
We may want to swap
the sequence of step 4 and 5 if necessary. What does everyone
think?
I will also like to
propose to have a face-to-face meeting soon. I bet the ideal place
would be a classroom in HKU, City U or UST.
Let's kick start
HK-CC ASAP!
Kenneth
Senior Manager
Intellectual
Property Department
Phone: +852 3406 2824
Fax: +852 3406 2801
Email: kenneth AT astri.org
-----Original
Message-----
From: cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:
cc-hk-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On
Behalf Of Li Yahong
Sent: Tuesday, May 08,
2007 2:12
PM
To: Rebecca MacKinnon; uta
lam
Cc: cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] HKU Copyright
seminar video
We (Jon, Prof. Yuen's team
and I) had a meeting back in early 2006, but not recently. No
translation has started. I am fully engaged in this May and June,
and will be available for meeting, if there is one, only in
July and August.
----- Original Message
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Sent:
Tuesday, May 08,
2007 1:15 PM
Subject:
Re: [Cc-hk] HKU Copyright seminar video
Has there been a HK-CC meeting?
On 8 May 2007, at 1:10 PM, uta lam
wrote:
It would be cool if a law firm can help. And it
definitely can speed the whole process. Or have Ms. Yahong Li and Prof.
Matthew Yuen already started the translation already?
As I was not in the last meeting, not sure sure if
we have formed a team already for the HK-CC?
And if we needed to ask the help from a law firm,
what would be the arrangement of the fee? What about the timeline? Maybe
you guys have already discussed these issue. Just would like to
know more.
On
5/8/07, Matthew MF Yuen < meymf AT ust.hk>
wrote:
Dear Rebecca,
I can recommend a law firm if needed as work with
a number of them on IP.
Regards,
Matthew
Rebecca MacKinnon wrote:
Not yet. We need to find a
Hong Kong law firm to help
us. On May 7, 2007, at 11:46
PM, uta lam wrote:
Hi
Rebecaa,�Thank you for sharing. By
the way, is that we have already got�legal people to
help�translating the HK-CC
document already?�Regards,Uta
�On
5/7/07, Rebecca MacKinnon <rebecca.mackinnon AT mac.com > wrote:
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