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  • From: Catharina Maracke <catharina AT creativecommons.org>
  • To: John Hendrik Weitzmann <jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de>
  • Cc: cc-europe AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Cc-europe] chartered CC-Europe questions
  • Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:28:49 +0100

Dear John,

dear all,

First of all, I would like to apologize for not being there.... Things have been busy and some commitments here in Tokyo including the trip to the Asia meeting turned out to be hard to re- arrange and re- schedule. I am very sorry to miss the communia meeting focussing on the working groups which I find very important. I also think that the CC Europe meeting dealing with a potential future structure for Europe is extremely important and I would love to see the topics John has raised to be discussed in detail. Please weigh in all pro's and con's especially regarding potential future funding. CC-Europe activities could probably also be funded "through" one of the already existing national legal entities if setting up a new and separate European legal entity turns out to become too complicated and "cumbersome" in terms of additional hierarchies etc..... just thinking loudly...

I am looking forward to hear back after the discussion and to follow up in London.

Best wishes from far away,

Catharina



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On Jan 23, 2009, at 10:56 AM, John Hendrik Weitzmann wrote:


hi everyone,

regarding a possible formalised "CC-Europe" structure, IMO the following
points need to be discussed:

- What would that structure be meant to deliver?

So far I heard two things here, the first one being 'raise funds on the
EU level (as some kind of extension of COMMUNIA', the second one being
'serve as a contact point and speaking organ for Brussels'. In any case,
it would be important to keep any aspect of CC-Europe bureaucracy as
small as possible.

- To what end?

What would the funds raised be used for, in what contexts would
CC-Europe act as a spokeslevel and how would that be coordinated? Here
there seem to be some controversies:
* Funds:
Some say 'use the funds to organise periodic meetings', others say 'use
the funds to get CC lobbyists established in Brussels'. I would have
some problem with using funds only for the latter, because CC is by
definition the alternative model to political lobbying. It's about
bypassing the dependency on good law giving through private strandard
regulations. Another interesting use for funds would be pan-european
studies on Open Access and CC use in different jurisdictions.
* Statements on the EU level:
There are some obvious cases for centralised european CC
comments/contributions/statements, mainly EU legislation in the making
and related proceedings. In my view CC-Europe should be confined to that
kind of activity and not try to centralise CC opinions in general all
across Europe.

- How would it best be chartered and where?

There seem to be several models possible:
* Generic european level NGO
This NGO would not have any history or credentials yet, which would be a
problem in relation to EU fundraising.
* Formalised Cooperation of several existing Organisations
Such a cooperation would bring credentials with it but would take some
coordination time to be set up.
* Re-shaped existing chartered body
There might be opportunity to re-use existing structures that formally
have history/credentials and shape that into the new CC-Europe body.

- What would be the intended/unintended impacts on the relationships
within the CC network of projects

One effect that a chartered CC-Europe must not have, in my view, is to
introduce an additional step in the CC hierarchy between jurisdiction
projects, CCi and CC HQ. If the direct channel between jurisdiction
projects and the other levels is cut and everything has to be
coordinated with a CC-Europe entity first, that would be a step in the
wrong direction.


I hope for a fruitful discussion tomorrow :)

greetz,

John Hendrik Weitzmann
CC-DE Legal Project Lead

Europäische EDV-Akademie | Institut für Rechtsinformatik
des Rechts (EEAR) | Universität des Saarlandes
Torstraße 43a | Geb. A54
D-66663 Merzig | D-66123 Saarbrücken

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