Developer discussion for Creative Commons technology and tools

[Dean Olson <bluesector AT yahoo.com>]

Well, I submitted a proposal to work on Chrome and Firefox extensions collectively rather than separately. The reason I did not want to separate them is because I believe it can be of great benefit to build them together and to share as much code between them as possible. The extension frameworks for both browsers use _javascript_, CSS, and XML to construct their extensions. If we can create a common code base between the two extensions, I believe that they can be maintained together rather than duplicating effort down the road.

If it is decided that the extensions would be better off developed independently of one another, then I would be happy to work on the Chrome extension since there seems to be less interest expressed in developing for that browser. I've looked over the documentation for building extensions for both browsers and I see many conceptual similarities between them. And the common language of _javascript_ combined with XML makes it so much easier to design for them both.

Dean Olson

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Nathan R. Yergler <nathan AT creativecommons.org> wrote:

I concur with nearly everything Nathan Kinkade said.

With respect to the adding from URL, the interesting thing is not adding
the URL of the image/video/etc (as currently supported) but from a page
that contains the resource + metadata.

With respect to your proposal, I'd rather see proposals that focus on
doing one thing really, really well and completely than on a couple of
different projects.

Regards,

Nathan


On 04/08/2010 12:56 PM, Nathan Kinkade wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Cassio Melo <cassio.ufpe AT gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think I will apply for other project, to not be unfair with other students
>> that are already engaged in this project longer than me :)
>>
>> As for the FF and Chrome extensions... I think adding support to the
>> Wordpress Media Manager is more important to CC, isn't it? Or maybe both
>> projects in the same application (I think it's viable and it may increase my
>> points)?
>>
>> I would like to know your opinion about the following part of my
>> application:
>>
>> Wordpress Media Manager Extension
>> ===========================
>>
>> 1. Project planning
>>
>> Delivering it as a plugin is the preferred option. However some issues have
>> to be considered like for example, how to deal with metadata imported from
>> an URL or in case of inserting the license code along with the media in the
>> page. A patch might be needed along with the plugin.
>>
>> 2. Extending Media Manager interface to support CC licensing process
>>
>> This is relatively easy to accomplish using the LicenseChooser.js for
>> integrating license selection into the application.
>>
>> 3. Store license and attribution information in the WordPress database
>>
>> I will investigate the appropriate handling of licensing information in the
>> Wordpress database and to insert the license metadata in the media (it might
>> require a patch for that).
>>
>> Possible additional contributions (time permitting):
>>
>>    - Include support for adding media from URL (fetching the license
>> metadata as well);
>>    - Create an extension for Joomla as well;
>>
>>     Once installed, the license-selection extension will appear as a
>> fieldset right below the file information (title, caption, etc). It will
>> generate a the license logo and a short summary of the license chosen right
>> after the selection (using AJAX).
>>
>> ====
>>
>> Too confusing? I appreciate any feedback!
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Cassio
>
> Cassio,
>
> I'm personally more interested in WordPress integration, but others
> may disagree or have interests elsewhere.
>
> 1) Yes, a plugin is ideal.  I can't speak for other people at CC, but
> for me any integration that requires changes to the core WordPress
> code is not particularly interesting.  It would hamper and complicate
> uptake by people.   Ideally, the plugin would be simple and elegant,
> to such a degree that WordPress devs may even at some point consider
> integrating the functionality into the core code, obsoleting the
> plugin.
>
> 2) I personally would rather a plugin not leverage LicenseChooser.js,
> but support only the "Unported" licenses.  This should greatly
> simplify the plugin, making necessary only a single call the CC API to
> find what the latest version of the Unported licenses are.  Other
> will/may disagree with me on this, and it is just my personal view on
> it so it shouldn't be taken as me setting any guidelines on the
> project.
>
> I'm not sure how you would implement grabbing metadata while fetching
> an image from a URL.  The URL for the image may not be at all related
> to the actual page where the image is displayed, and that page is
> where any metadata would likely be ... unless I'm confusing something.
>
> Again, this is just my personal feedback.  I'm not defining the
> project and others, principally Nathan Yergler, may differ from me and
> basically he'll be the one likely setting the project bounds and
> scope.
>
> Best
>
> Nathan

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Nathan R. Yergler
Chief Technology Officer
Creative Commons

http://wiki.creativecommons.org/User:Nathan_Yergler
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