Developer discussion for Creative Commons technology and tools

[Stas Sușcov <stas AT nerd.ro>]

În data de Mi, 31-03-2010 la 11:38 -0700, Nathan Yergler a scris:
> Hi Stas,
> 
> So when you talk about what licenses would be used on the blog, you're
> referring to licenses for media that the author would upload to go
> with posts, right? 

Exactly.

> (As opposed to those for media included from
> external sources like Flickr, etc, where the author doesn't really
> have control over what license is used)  

Thats all a different story. A user should not mess with that content
license type. The point is to provide support for them, not change them.

> I think the thing I'd like to
> understand clearly is how your proposed work would overlap/integrate
> (if at all) with the existing WP License plugin
> (http://wiki.creativecommons.org/WpLicense).

WpLicence offers a single type of license, though it supports license
type by country, it doesn't suit a needs of a developer lets say, who
writes content (text) under a CC license and has a tarball with some
code under GPL/BSD license. So the plugin, should also offer an option
to use/select a license type based on the target content.
Of course I can just fork and extend offering a compatibility layer, the
existing wplicense, but it's definetely of no help right now. Also I
would like to add to options panel, a list of license types a user can
select for his blog, we should consider that WordPress is the new
WordPress MU so there can be blogs powered by multiple users that trust
to different types of license. 


>   With respect to
> shortcodes, I'm not really a fan, but I know WP uses them widely, so
> that makes sense to me.  Looking forward to seeing your proposal.
> 

Thanks for your interest.

> Nathan
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Stas Sușcov <stas AT nerd.ro> wrote:
> > În data de Lu, 29-03-2010 la 11:09 -0700, Nathan Yergler a scris:
> >> Hi Nivanka,
> >>
> >> I'm very happy to hear that you're interested in the CC GSoC projects.
> >>  Robert gave some excellent advice in his email about logistics and
> >> previous projects.  I'll just comment on these projects and you can
> >> let us know if you have additional questions.
> >>
> >> Both of those would be great projects for someone to work on.  As you
> >> probably saw from the wiki page, we had a Summer of Code student last
> >> year do an initial implementation of the RDFa Plugin for WordPress.
> >> The primary opportunity there is polishing the code and making it work
> >> with the visual editor (right now I believe it's limited to the HTML
> >> editor).  There's been other interest in making WordPress work better
> >> with RDFa (from outside CC, see
> >> http://danbri.org/words/2009/12/23/507), so improving that could be
> >> really useful.
> >>
> >> The media manager project also has lots of potential.  There are two
> >> different things I'd like to see implemented. First, I'd like to see
> >> fields for the license and attribution information in the media
> >> manager generally. When filled in, the media manager should insert
> >> HTML that includes attribution and license information.
> >>
> >> An additional step that I think would be interesting is extending it
> >> to support RDFa and/or OEmbed.  That is, given the URL of a page
> >> (instead of an image), pull the page and look for RDFa there for
> >> title, license, description, etc.  OEmbed might not be required, but
> >> could be used to get the actual object, if not specified by the RDFa.
> >> The CC specific bit of that is support for the license.  The inserted
> >> HTML would also include the license/attribution information, as well
> >> as the appropriate scope metadata (indicating the source URL initially
> >> provided).  We (CC) can provide examples of how this metadata should
> >> be constructed.
> >>
> >> Think about these possible projects and let me know if you have any
> >> questions.  I'll add some of these details to the wiki pages as well.
> >>
> >> Thanks again for your interest, and sorry for the delayed reply.
> >>
> >> Nathan
> >>
> >
> > Hi Nathan,
> > about the media manager plugin (I sent an email some time ago).
> > I'm familiar with current WordPress features and I know they already
> > got OEmbed implemented [1]. It's just not media manger where it is used,
> > it's the editor. I was describing my proposal for media manager that
> > will include options for chosing a licence and OEmbed can be integrated
> > into that.
> >
> > Though you also mentioned adding the licence text into the article, I
> > don't think we should consider adding raw HTML. WordPress
> > has shortcodes support and I opt for using them. It will also
> > be easier to handle data when updating it.
> >
> > Also, another small feature I would like to add is option to first
> > update (fetch the available licenses on a certain country and update
> > their description/title accordingly to blog locale) and choose what
> > licenses will be used on blog (I don't think an end-user uses all
> > the available cc licenses) so this will be a good usability improvement.
> >
> > I would be happy to hear your opinion about the small changes I got
> > about this idea.
> >
> >
> > [1]: http://codex.wordpress.org/Embeds
> >
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