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  • From: "Luis Villa" <luis AT tieguy.org>
  • To: "Luke Hoersten" <luke.hoersten AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: CC Developer Mailing List <cc-devel AT lists.ibiblio.org>, CC Metadata Mailing List <cc-metadata AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-devel] [cc-metadata] Exif metadata
  • Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:57:02 -0400

On 8/20/06, Luke Hoersten <luke.hoersten AT gmail.com> wrote:
Luis,
Verification is optional and I don't see anyone disputing this.

(Re-reads original email.)

So... the terminology has probably drifted a bit here :) The original
email implied that EXIF had only one copyright field, and Mike
suggested that should point at some page which was *not* the official
CC URI. Thus (if I understood correctly, which is not necessarily the
case, please do clarify if I'm misunderstanding) Mike's original
suggestion was not the same as mandatory verification, but it would
preclude mandatory license ID in the file- since there is only one
field. (The combined field usage you suggested later would avoid this
problem, but it isn't what Mike suggested originally.)

There
is indeed a need for verification because that is what people want.
There are many different contexts for the word "need" and I think you
are assuming the legal context when I mean a communal context.

I mean both. I've been doing this for a long time, and never seen
anyone in an open source community or in a corporate legal setting
feel a need to do license verification, except under very unusual
circumstances, where the license was used in a broken or non-standard
way which made people doubt the provenance. Is this want actually a
demonstrated community need, or just hypothetical?

Back to my first email, the issue of optional verification has already
been resolved with MP3 licenses.

Yup. Thanks for the pointer- I agree that that would be perfectly
acceptable. It's not what Mike originally suggested in this thread,
though. :)

Luis

On 8/20/06, Luis Villa <luis AT tieguy.org> wrote:
>
> > so it seems to me that saying there is a
> > 'need' is a bit strong.
> >
> > Luis
> >
>


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Luke Hoersten
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http://www.cs.purdue.edu/~lhoerste/
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